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I am as guilty as most of being glass half empty but this is a realistic and refreshing piece about West Ham for a change.

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West Ham now have everything but the goal…

“They had one chance in the first half, they scored and then defended very well…but in the second 45 minutes we had the pace, we had the football, they didn’t have many chances in our box but in this game, you need to score.”

“They created one chance and they scored. We had a couple and didn’t. In the second 45 minutes there was just one team in the game, us. We dominated, had the possession, created chances, played most of the game in their third but in this game you must score. If you don’t then it is difficult to win.”

The same manager, the same result and then practically the same verdict after two different games for West Ham, who have recorded back-to-back 1-0 defeats in the Premier League for the first time in over four years. A 1-0 defeat is surely the least West Ham of all scorelines; for context, they did not lose a single game by that scoreline last season as they contrived to concede as many goals as the relegated Stoke and many more than everybody else. They won enough games to stave off relegation but when they lost, they really lost; their last defeats under David Moyes saw them crash 4-1, 4-1, 3-0, 4-1, 4-1 and 3-1.

The Hammers began this season in a similar vein but they are fast becoming the least West Ham of all West Ham teams. Two seasons ago they ranked lowest in the Premier League for tackles; this season they have made the most. Manuel Pellegrini has made them meaner and – in the case of Robert Snodgrass, at least – considerably leaner. They are now a serious proposition, with the only punchline for this previously joke team being that they cannot score the goals their football deserves.

Of the XI that should have claimed at least a point against Tottenham last week, only four were regulars last season. A new defensive spine running from Lukasz Fabianski through to Declan Rice at the base of the midfield has made the Hammers increasingly hard to breach. Over the last six games, they have conceded an impressively low five goals. They have not been this defensively sound for almost three years, when Slaven Bilic delivered a now barely believable seventh-place finish above both Liverpool and Chelsea.

As Peter Goldstein wrote this week of Issa Diop: ‘The Frenchman is forming a very useful partnership with Fabián Balbuena, and with Declan Rice settling in at the holding role, West Ham are finally starting to keep the scores down.’

“We are improving, yes,” said Pellegrini this week. “But we didn’t score goals, so something is missing.” It’s a pretty big ‘but’ but Pellegrini is the type of manager who would rather be losing games 1-0 than 4-3. Especially when those two 1-0 defeats featured 30 West Ham goal attempts. While their aim was far from true against Brighton, they were repeatedly thwarted by Hugo Lloris last week against Spurs. Marko Arnautovic hit the target with four of his five shots; if he had faced Eindhoven Lloris rather than London Lloris they would have emerged with at least a point.

This weekend they travel to Leicester at the start of a kinder run of fixtures after they faced five of last season’s top six in their first nine games. Serious injury to Andriy Yarmolenko has been a blow, but the emergence of Academy graduate Grady Diangana as an alternative is a welcome by-product of Pellegrini’s determination to bring West Ham’s Under-23s closer to the first team both geographically and in terms of opportunity.

Finally, there are positives at West Ham. There are young players. There is bite. There is defensive meanness. There is flair allied with work ethic. All that is now missing is the goals.

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And a few points :D

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Yeah lots of positive stuff....we are trying Manager/Coaching staff,players,us lot...
It's just the constant Injuries kill it stone dead...

One day we'll get it all together.... :D

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Hard to be too unhappy with the progress this season. To have two -- brand new to the PL -- CBs forming a solid partnership so quickly is very encouraging.
There is still a lot still to sort out, but there's a real spine to the first XI now, and it's been a while since we've seen that at West Ham.
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Neville Bartos wrote:Hard to be too unhappy with the progress this season. To have two -- brand new to the PL -- CBs forming a solid partnership so quickly is very encouraging.
There is still a lot still to sort out, but there's a real spine to the first XI now, and it's been a while since we've seen that at West Ham.
7 points from 9 games. Absolutely ecstatic.

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21212 wrote:
Neville Bartos wrote:Hard to be too unhappy with the progress this season. To have two -- brand new to the PL -- CBs forming a solid partnership so quickly is very encouraging.
There is still a lot still to sort out, but there's a real spine to the first XI now, and it's been a while since we've seen that at West Ham.
7 points from 9 games. Absolutely ecstatic.
There's this thing called context...
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Neville Bartos wrote:
21212 wrote:
7 points from 9 games. Absolutely ecstatic.
There's this thing called context...
8 points from 10 games - please provide context for that stat?

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21212 wrote:
Neville Bartos wrote:
There's this thing called context...
8 points from 10 games - please provide context for that stat?
It is more than 3pts from 10 games.
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We've improved defensively since the start of the season, that's clear to see.

Not much to be positive on us in attack, And that's alarming. The General and Diop have settled in nicely after shaky start. That can't be said for Anderson and Yarmolenko.

After 10 games it's a disappointing points tally.
If we don't start scoring, the season will get tougher.
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Dicksies Diner wrote:We've improved defensively since the start of the season, that's clear to see.

Not much to be positive on us in attack, And that's alarming. The General and Diop have settled in nicely after shaky start. That can't be said for Anderson and Yarmolenko.

After 10 games it's a disappointing points tally.
If we don't start scoring, the season will get tougher.
Pellegrini has sorted defence, I’m sure he will sort the goals side. You can’t really say the attack is bad because we are creating plenty of chances just not taking them. Ogbonna yesterday wins that for us if he showed some composure.
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