West Ham vs Wolves Official Match Thread

[mkhammer]

One of the reasons I don't get all the .."We're a shit side stuff".is our attack, all of a sudden is very tasty..key to that is the
options..don't think there's many if any,have as many as we do...think most of us could put together 5/6 different starting
line ups that would be a handfull for most defences,prob all...nice position to be in.

We're under the cosh at moment for lots of reasons...Moysies system is starting to work...big tests coming up,so we'll
find out how much...Personally think we're in for a few surprises.
Cos it's working goalwise..(but to be fair defence is starting to tighten up...like said early days),Moyes will stick with what
he's doing,can't blame him..

But to me a Front 3 of Haller-Micky-Bowen/Yarmo....as a front 3 ...lining up Mickey Left,which is where he originally played,
Haller Central..Bowen at the moment right...with a playmaker....Anderson/Lanza/Fornals take yer pick..is our best option.
Mickeys happy wide,more a system Haller was used to,he's not an out and out CF..he likes to drop deep and face the goal,
not have his back to it...think we're wasting him at the moment,Bowen and Yarmo,will scare the shit outta defences on
the right...I really like that set up....means going back to a 4 tho....but watch Red Scouse...they set up as a 4,but play a 3
most of the time...Henderson/Keita now, drop real deep when playing out,becoming the 3rd defender,we've got
the best in the business for that role.
We need Haller Playing more...we're all waiting for Micky to pull something(good spot bout him tho,slightly different
style of play,is it helping him,but he spends a fair bit of time wide making runs anyway...he's not playing a traditional
"Target Man" Game.

Haller and Anderson shouldn't be bit part Players IMO...use them or cash in,cos they'll get unhappy as permanent benchers,
Especially coming on in 89th minute etc...gotta be honest, me, would tell Moyes on the quite to Fuck Off...thats borderline
taking the piss.

Why change a system that suits us and working?

Thats what I said Tel...he'll stick with what he's doing...fair dues to him...just think there's even better options maybe....
I'll cheer just as loud whatever team he puts out if it wins..or at least plays well in losing..

[mkhammer]

One of the reasons I don't get all the .."We're a shit side stuff".is our attack, all of a sudden is very tasty..key to that is the
options..don't think there's many if any,have as many as we do...think most of us could put together 5/6 different starting
line ups that would be a handfull for most defences,prob all...nice position to be in.

We're under the cosh at moment for lots of reasons...Moysies system is starting to work...big tests coming up,so we'll
find out how much...Personally think we're in for a few surprises.
Cos it's working goalwise..(but to be fair defence is starting to tighten up...like said early days),Moyes will stick with what
he's doing,can't blame him..

But to me a Front 3 of Haller-Micky-Bowen/Yarmo....as a front 3 ...lining up Mickey Left,which is where he originally played,
Haller Central..Bowen at the moment right...with a playmaker....Anderson/Lanza/Fornals take yer pick..is our best option.
Mickeys happy wide,more a system Haller was used to,he's not an out and out CF..he likes to drop deep and face the goal,
not have his back to it...think we're wasting him at the moment,Bowen and Yarmo,will scare the shit outta defences on
the right...I really like that set up....means going back to a 4 tho....but watch Red Scouse...they set up as a 4,but play a 3
most of the time...Henderson/Keita now, drop real deep when playing out,becoming the 3rd defender,we've got
the best in the business for that role.
We need Haller Playing more...we're all waiting for Micky to pull something(good spot bout him tho,slightly different
style of play,is it helping him,but he spends a fair bit of time wide making runs anyway...he's not playing a traditional
"Target Man" Game.

Haller and Anderson shouldn't be bit part Players IMO...use them or cash in,cos they'll get unhappy as permanent benchers,
Especially coming on in 89th minute etc...gotta be honest, me, would tell Moyes on the quite to Fuck Off...thats borderline
taking the piss.

When we have gone on a run of decent results I don't really think we can start saying his choice of attack is tasty ( their finishing was very poor against Arsenal ). As far as options go what changes would Moyes change in attack through choice ? ( Though many fans would ) ) , the only time he makes a change is as a late sub or through injury .
At the end of the day Moyes is the manager and he selects the starting eleven and formation , and as long as he gets it right like he did against Arsenal and Wolves we can't really complain to an extent . Though his management of subs could be improved immensely and his proactive tactics could be much better .
But what worries me is the return to health of Mark Noble , will Moyes once again bring him back into the starting eleven and change the formation and use the same system as he did against NUFC .

I mean the attacking squad as whole looks good....like just said to Terry..not expecting him to change it... yet...
But we will lose Anderson and Haller at some point if they don't play,he's doing a lot I like,but still a lot I don't...
But like you say winning is the main thing...all the top sides have real quality on the bench that don't start games..

Mark doesn't make my starting 11 hasn't since Soucek arrived,,,but would still use him,he's a very good player IMO
Very Good...he'll still get game time.
Poss will start tonite if fit..in fact be surprised if he doesn't,think Cullen would have instead tho.

[Clayton]

When we have gone on a run of decent results I don't really think we can start saying his choice of attack is tasty ( their finishing was very poor against Arsenal ). As far as options go what changes would Moyes change in attack through choice ? ( Though many fans would ) ) , the only time he makes a change is as a late sub or through injury .
At the end of the day Moyes is the manager and he selects the starting eleven and formation , and as long as he gets it right like he did against Arsenal and Wolves we can't really complain to an extent . Though his management of subs could be improved immensely and his proactive tactics could be much better .
But what worries me is the return to health of Mark Noble , will Moyes once again bring him back into the starting eleven and change the formation and use the same system as he did against NUFC .

I mean the attacking squad as whole looks good....like just said to Terry..not expecting him to change it... yet...
But we will lose Anderson and Haller at some point if they don't play,he's doing a lot I like,but still a lot I don't...
But like you say winning is the main thing...all the top sides have real quality on the bench that don't start games..

Mark doesn't make my starting 11 hasn't since Soucek arrived,,,but would still use him,he's a very good player IMO
Very Good...he'll still get game time.
Poss will start tonite if fit..in fact be surprised if he doesn't,think Cullen would have instead tho.

Personally think Nobles days are numbered if not over , in my opinion if either Rice or Soucek ever get a injury I would play Fornals there , and if it came to the crunch I would play Snodgrass , but never Noble . IMO .

[Ironworksfc]

Antonio is best used down the right, he is not a striker

Maybe not..But he "OWNS" every centre half he plays against.When he is there and the ball gets knock up to him,there is danger.It looks like there is a problem for the opposition defenders everytime.

Just look at the evidence.Look how many goals and chances we are creating?Apart from 3 games since February(Wolves,Spurs,Newcastle),we have been the better team in all them.

At the end of the day,we are making more chances while his playing up there.

Not going to disagree with you at all, the one question I ponder is why do we ruin proven goal scoring strikers and need to put a square peg in a round hole.

[Whiskyman]

Maybe not..But he "OWNS" every centre half he plays against.When he is there and the ball gets knock up to him,there is danger.It looks like there is a problem for the opposition defenders everytime.

Just look at the evidence.Look how many goals and chances we are creating?Apart from 3 games since February(Wolves,Spurs,Newcastle),we have been the better team in all them.

At the end of the day,we are making more chances while his playing up there.

Not going to disagree with you at all, the one question I ponder is why do we ruin proven goal scoring strikers and need to put a square peg in a round hole.

Because it's fairly common knowledge we tried to sign Maxi Gomez. A forward who is accustomed to playing a lone striker role. the same as we favour. When he decided he'd prefer Valencia to us we switched oua attention elsewhere and came up with Haller. A striker who made his name playing in a front two alongside Luka Jovic. I accept that good players should be able to adapt but if we wanted someone to hit the ground running we should have gone for someone who has played regularly in the lone striker role, not somebody who, as well as havibng to adapt to living in a new country was also being asked to play in a role he was unaccustomed to.

[Ironworksfc]

Not going to disagree with you at all, the one question I ponder is why do we ruin proven goal scoring strikers and need to put a square peg in a round hole.

Because it's fairly common knowledge we tried to sign Maxi Gomez. A forward who is accustomed to playing a lone striker role. the same as we favour. When he decided he'd prefer Valencia to us we switched oua attention elsewhere and came up with Haller. A striker who made his name playing in a front two alongside Luka Jovic. I accept that good players should be able to adapt but if we wanted someone to hit the ground running we should have gone for someone who has played regularly in the lone striker role, not somebody who, as well as havibng to adapt to living in a new country was also being asked to play in a role he was unaccustomed to.

Haller isn't the first, who would you name as the last decent striker we had? And that's not a dig

[Whiskyman]

Because it's fairly common knowledge we tried to sign Maxi Gomez. A forward who is accustomed to playing a lone striker role. the same as we favour. When he decided he'd prefer Valencia to us we switched oua attention elsewhere and came up with Haller. A striker who made his name playing in a front two alongside Luka Jovic. I accept that good players should be able to adapt but if we wanted someone to hit the ground running we should have gone for someone who has played regularly in the lone striker role, not somebody who, as well as havibng to adapt to living in a new country was also being asked to play in a role he was unaccustomed to.

Haller isn't the first, who would you name as the last decent striker we had? And that's not a dig

Javier Hernandez. Didn't work for us but he was a top class striker. Anyone who says otherwise about a player good enough to play for Manchester United, Real Madrid and with an internati9nal scoring record of virtually a goal every other game is clearly misguided. And despite playing in an unbalanced side with mediocre players in support still good enough to score a goal pretty much every 3 games in our colours.

Marko Arnautovic was also decent although I'd not include him because he wasn't signed as a striker. Before Hernandez ? Probably Dean Ashton. But even the much maligned Simone Zaza was good enough to be selected for Italy quite a few times. Was he as crap as some would have us believe ? Or was he perhaps not effective because he was surrounded by crap ?

[Ironworksfc]

Haller isn't the first, who would you name as the last decent striker we had? And that's not a dig

Javier Hernandez. Didn't work for us but he was a top class striker. Anyone who says otherwise about a player good enough to play for Manchester United, Real Madrid and with an internati9nal scoring record of virtually a goal every other game is clearly misguided. And despite playing in an unbalanced side with mediocre players in support still good enough to score a goal pretty much every 3 games in our colours.

Marko Arnautovic was also decent although I'd not include him because he wasn't signed as a striker. Before Hernandez ? Probably Dean Ashton. But even the much maligned Simone Zaza was good enough to be selected for Italy quite a few times. Was he as crap as some would have us believe ? Or was he perhaps not effective because he was surrounded by crap ?

Not a great outlook really, why can't we have performing strikers?