Don't really think comparisons to 1918 are relevant. Human life was considered less sacrosanct then. After all we had only just finished a war in which countless thousands were sent "over the top" into machine gun fire guaranteeing 95% or so of them would be killed. And healthcare has improved significantly in the 100 years between then and now. People generally are much healthier for many reasons.mkhammer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:32 pm
If we had the know how expertise knowledge and equipment in 1918 it would not have killed so many...Agreed...now
we do and are,what would this have done in 1918...we all just cracked on with the it's just a Flu....luck of the draw Mantra.
At this moment in time it's the UKs And most of the worlds biggest killer..at it's present rate would kill or be responsible
for killing up to 450,000 of us a year...indirectly fuck knows how many because of other cancelled ops and treatments..etc.
Those are present figures...it may or may not have peaked...I believe it poss has and that figure wont be reached...
BECAUSE of Lockdowns/Masks...Vaccines.............
It's also nowhere near the biggest killer in the UK. That is still heart disease, closely followed by cancer. Covid is well behind those two charmers. And it won't kill the projected number you say, Why ? Because it has been accepted it kills predominantly the elderly and those with pre existing health issues. You recognise that many have probably died through not having had scheduled operations and that illustrates the quandry that must be facing healthcare professionals every day. Being utterly and cold heartedly practical if I had to make a decision to prolong the life of, say, an 85 year old or to prioritise treatment for a 50 year old who desperately needed it I know what my decision would be. And I imagine decisions like that have to be taken every day by doctors. But if the beds are full of Covid cases what can they do ?
That's inevitable. The government is the government. It would be the same if the other lot were in power. Of course it is the government being criticised, in every country not just here. Governments, not oppositions, make decisions and so when people don't like those decisions it's the government that takes the flak. In any case it's stupid making a political issue out of it because by and large Starmer and his lot have backed the government.
As I understand it there is no real evidence that it is affecting the more healthy and robust among us. Of course there will always be the exception that proved the rule and no one will deny there have been deaths in age groups not considered elderly. But I think many people are now beginning to realise that much of the publicity is designed to reinforce the feeling of fear amongst the population because, quite simply, it is that fear that is keeping the masses compliant.mkhammer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:32 pmJust a Flu let it crack on......Jesus fuck....
Simply... you don't allow a virus to run it's course thru the population killing off the weak...an unknown virus that has
different strains...our one, According to Doctors and Nurses...on the frontline,is starting to affect the younger more middle
I think we are entitled th demand a little bit more balance , particularly when it comes to statistical data.
Here's one, from the UK government's own published figures. Total cases 3.65 million. Total deaths 97,939. By my mathematics that means around 3.55 MILLION people have had it and got over it. I regard that as positive. But instead of that we get bollocks about how there are many more cases now being diagnosed don't we ? Well that's hardly surprising is it ? FFS if we are now testing a hell of a lot more people isn't it blindingly obvious to anyone with an IQ bigger than their shoe size that , if the tested sample is larger there will be more fucking cases ?
It's the blatant bias and fear mongering in the way it's being reported that pisses me off.