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mkhammer wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:10 pm
Neville Bartos wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:08 pm

The irony is they race in China and the Middle-East. Places with awful human rights records, but ne'er a word is said.
There's literally pictures of Chinese 're-education centres', but there's Lewis promoting China by racing there.
The BBC called him 'a statesman' off the track. I'd call him a hypocrite everywhere.
Gets me mate...people that bang on and protest about equal rights and such...lots of em have actually no fucking idea
about what is actually going on out there.....they're very superficial .....they need to delve a bit deeper,and have a look
around ...before they start telling people what to do and think...
I'm not excusing them but I do think quite a lot of what all these celebs get involved in are down to their agents saying "get your name down on this, it'll raise your profile".
COYI!!!

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Mercedes must be pissing themselves laughing after today. Their cars were a second quicker than their own car from last season, which, even though its being driven by some mediocre talent, was still quicker than everyone else.
We know about Ferraris issues, but Red Bull were almost half a second than their qualifying time from last year.
I mean Lance Stroll p3! The rest of the grid should be ashamed.
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Neville Bartos wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:31 pm Mercedes must be pissing themselves laughing after today. Their cars were a second quicker than their own car from last season, which, even though its being driven by some mediocre talent, was still quicker than everyone else.
We know about Ferraris issues, but Red Bull were almost half a second than their qualifying time from last year.
I mean Lance Stroll p3! The rest of the grid should be ashamed.
What Mercedes have done this year is incredible. When regulations are largely stable the potential gains by those at the front become ever smaller, giving those behind a chance to catch up. At least that's the theory. But Mercedes are clearly not operating to that theory. It's an incredible team.
Already it seems the title will go to a Mercedes driver. And it would be difficult to find anyone who would put their money on Bottas. So, title No.7 for Lewis.

And then, what of next year? With the regulation freeze it will likely be more of the same. Title No.8 for Lewis!
Maybe I've very much jumping the gun here but I really think it's gonna happen!!

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Gandalf wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:58 pm
Neville Bartos wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:31 pm Mercedes must be pissing themselves laughing after today. Their cars were a second quicker than their own car from last season, which, even though its being driven by some mediocre talent, was still quicker than everyone else.
We know about Ferraris issues, but Red Bull were almost half a second than their qualifying time from last year.
I mean Lance Stroll p3! The rest of the grid should be ashamed.
What Mercedes have done this year is incredible. When regulations are largely stable the potential gains by those at the front become ever smaller, giving those behind a chance to catch up. At least that's the theory. But Mercedes are clearly not operating to that theory. It's an incredible team.
Already it seems the title will go to a Mercedes driver. And it would be difficult to find anyone who would put their money on Bottas. So, title No.7 for Lewis.

And then, what of next year? With the regulation freeze it will likely be more of the same. Title No.8 for Lewis!
Maybe I've very much jumping the gun here but I really think it's gonna happen!!
I agree with you.

Hamilton on Pole. 8-)

Though some may dislike Hamilton, I like him... Want him to beat Michael Schumacher's record, plus some.

Fingers crossed for another great race by Lando Norris and George Russell.

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Gandalf wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:58 pm
Neville Bartos wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:31 pm Mercedes must be pissing themselves laughing after today. Their cars were a second quicker than their own car from last season, which, even though its being driven by some mediocre talent, was still quicker than everyone else.
We know about Ferraris issues, but Red Bull were almost half a second than their qualifying time from last year.
I mean Lance Stroll p3! The rest of the grid should be ashamed.
What Mercedes have done this year is incredible. When regulations are largely stable the potential gains by those at the front become ever smaller, giving those behind a chance to catch up. At least that's the theory. But Mercedes are clearly not operating to that theory. It's an incredible team.
Already it seems the title will go to a Mercedes driver. And it would be difficult to find anyone who would put their money on Bottas. So, title No.7 for Lewis.

And then, what of next year? With the regulation freeze it will likely be more of the same. Title No.8 for Lewis!
Maybe I've very much jumping the gun here but I really think it's gonna happen!!
I don't disagree, but Mercedes advantages are continually exacerbated by ball dropping from their closest rivals.
I've been watching F1 since Senna was at Lotus and its always been cyclical. You have one team dominating, that's followed by one or two years where its closeish, then the coming team becomes the dominant team, and so on.
Following that pattern Ferrari were the coming force 3 seasons ago, but my word have they taken a machine gun to their foot.
And as much as have Mercedes have continued to improve incrementally, they've managed to maintain the top spot by their opponents failure to push on.

Looking back Mercedes initial dominance was down to their engines. On tracks that negated some of that power advantage they were vulnerable. Ferrari had pretty much caught up 3 seasons ago, and for a while were probably ahead. Though whether they still are is debatable.
You could say the same for Red Bull, fantastic chassis, hamstrung by Renault engines. Now you'd probably say Honda power is more or less on par.

What we've seen this season again is improvement from Mercedes. There's no dominant power advantage, but there is innovation (legal innovation, take note Ferrari), and an evolution of their already excellent car.
From Ferrari we've seen an almighty cock up in development, which means they haven't even managed to maintain the status quo from last year.
Then we have Red Bull, expected to challenge this year, we've seen they've gone backwards too. Last year Verstappen was on pole in Hungary, this year its 7th, 0.3 seconds off last year's time.
So, as much as Mercedes have improved, their biggest challengers are presenting them with open goal after open goal.
Incompetence appears to have broken the age old cycle of dominance, and Mercedes are reaping the rewards by just being sensible and steady.
Ferrari, Imo, need change root and branch. The issues at RB might be less serious, but there has clearly been a serious misstep somewhere.

It's hard to see Hamilton not securing title number 7. And 8 is a very real possibility. Not to mention milestones like 100 poles and 100 wins look attainable in the 40 odd GPS this season and next.
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Hamilton wins number 86 grand prix's, Verstappen 2nd and Bottas 3rd.

Silverstone in 2 weeks time. 8-)

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Noni wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:19 pm Hamilton wins number 86 grand prix's, Verstappen 2nd and Bottas 3rd.

Silverstone in 2 weeks time. 8-)
Too easy wasn't it? And but for Bottas' almighty cock up at the start it would probably have been a 1, 2.
Hamilton even had time for an extra pit to pick up the point for fastest lap.
5 away from Schumacher's record of 91 wins With an estimated 14 or 15 more races this season, and a dominant car. It's hard not to see that being passed, and then some, by seasons end.
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Neville Bartos wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:13 pm
Noni wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:19 pm Hamilton wins number 86 grand prix's, Verstappen 2nd and Bottas 3rd.

Silverstone in 2 weeks time. 8-)
Too easy wasn't it? And but for Bottas' almighty cock up at the start it would probably have been a 1, 2.
Hamilton even had time for an extra pit to pick up the point for fastest lap.
5 away from Schumacher's record of 91 wins With an estimated 14 or 15 more races this season, and a dominant car. It's hard not to see that being passed, and then some, by seasons end.
I really hope so. I know this can be boring for the average fan, and positively painful for a Ferrari fan ( :lol: ) but I never did like Schumacher and the way he went about things. So happy to go through all this predictability so see Schumacher's records gone.

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Gandalf wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:43 pm
Neville Bartos wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:13 pm

Too easy wasn't it? And but for Bottas' almighty cock up at the start it would probably have been a 1, 2.
Hamilton even had time for an extra pit to pick up the point for fastest lap.
5 away from Schumacher's record of 91 wins With an estimated 14 or 15 more races this season, and a dominant car. It's hard not to see that being passed, and then some, by seasons end.
I really hope so. I know this can be boring for the average fan, and positively painful for a Ferrari fan ( :lol: ) but I never did like Schumacher and the way he went about things. So happy to go through all this predictability so see Schumacher's records gone.
I really hope so Gandalf, like you said about Schumacher, he was never a fair player in F1. Loved wining a lot if things went badly. At least with Hamilton he admits went he is wrong.

Could see Perez losing his seat to Vettel next season :( at Racing Point.

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