Reflected on John Cleese-style.
Interested to get people's thoughts?
For all of them it is about the self.Their self projection.The people on BLM marches to the youtube ranters. It makes people feel better about them selves and is a kind of low resolution vanity stimulant. Like the boy in the fable who was beguiled by his own beautiful reflection in water.
BlackDiamond wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2020 2:54 pmFor all of them it is about the self.Their self projection.The people on BLM marches to the youtube ranters. It makes people feel better about them selves and is a kind of low resolution vanity stimulant. Like the boy in the fable who was beguiled by his own beautiful reflection in water.
It's a powerful phenomena,very human and an appalling trait that can lead to terrible emotional corruption. That path almost always leads to futility and personal dishonor.
Virtually all mental disorders at their root have this common cause. As we say,it's interesting shit
Yes mate....my personal thing as a kid just getting interested in politics was very much a slightly left...working classMFY66 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2020 3:15 pm As a former Marxist, I can give my own experience of this.
A lot of it is about virtue signalling, based upon a blind zeal that you are more virtuous than thou. The same often applies to the radical Right too.
A pearl of wisdom from the journalist Peter Hitchens: ‘it’s hard to reasonably debate somebody when they hate you’. And this is the utter truth of trying to engage with radical ideologues on either side of the scale — just remember that they’ve decided they hate you *as a person* the moment you said you don’t agree with them. I’m a bit of a softy and hate it when people on the hard Left call me names for my views, but it helps to remind myself of this simple fact. As a former Marxist I know — these people will only stop hating you when you adhere to their worldview.
From following Karl Marx to quoting that cunt Peter Hitchens is quite a political leap.....(You didn't used to be a Millwall fan per chance...MFY66 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2020 3:15 pm As a former Marxist, I can give my own experience of this.
A lot of it is about virtue signalling, based upon a blind zeal that you are more virtuous than thou. The same often applies to the radical Right too.
A pearl of wisdom from the journalist Peter Hitchens: ‘it’s hard to reasonably debate somebody when they hate you’. And this is the utter truth of trying to engage with radical ideologues on either side of the scale — just remember that they’ve decided they hate you *as a person* the moment you said you don’t agree with them. I’m a bit of a softy and hate it when people on the hard Left call me names for my views, but it helps to remind myself of this simple fact. As a former Marxist I know — these people will only stop hating you when you adhere to their worldview.
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It's this kind of exaggeration that makes it hard to take you seriously, mate.
Thats true but also you should factor in that some of the mines were making a huge loss and needed to be shut. Not nice but why keep a loss making mine ? All this raged against by Arthur Scargill. The same man that had his flat paid for in the Barbican by the NUM.Neville Bartos wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:48 pmIt's this kind of exaggeration that makes it hard to take you seriously, mate.
In real terms miners went from earning (on average) 20% more than those in manufacturing jobs to around 5% less in two decades. It was a hard, dangerous, dirty job.
And let's not forget these were the days before the rise of workers rights and health and safety.
If you can't see both sides of the argument, you should put a tick in your bias column.
Yeah I was wrong........If you dont wanna take me seriously.....entirely up to you mate.......Neville Bartos wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:48 pmIt's this kind of exaggeration that makes it hard to take you seriously, mate.
In real terms miners went from earning (on average) 20% more than those in manufacturing jobs to around 5% less in two decades. It was a hard, dangerous, dirty job.
And let's not forget these were the days before the rise of workers rights and health and safety.
If you can't see both sides of the argument, you should put a tick in your bias column.
