Hear Golds not too well at the moment
Nothing trivial I hope.
Harsh .Dwayne Pipes wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:18 pm Hear Golds not too well at the moment
Nothing trivial I hope.
So, in short let’s just say then that they’ll still be negotiating when Jack Sullivan is drawing his pension?Whiskyman wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:24 amYou're right Tone. Business HATES uncertainty. Nobody knows how future TV deals are going to impact football finances and of course nobody knows when full attendances will again be a feature of the game. Add in sponsorship deals, which are dependant on TV exposure, and commercial revenue streams, a significant element of which I imagine is match day spend driven, and you have a very uncertain future.ToneLoc wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:53 am
True but as Whisky says, it’s not just about the buyer meeting the asking price, it works two ways.... it’s also up to the seller to demonstrate and justify the asking price.
Look around the PL and the major leagues of Europe. Do you see many big takeover deals actually taking place?
There’s a solid reason for that..... the sheer uncertainty.
Post COVID-19 the old rules have been thrown out of the window.
I’m sure deals will still be done but I just cannot see how any seller can ably demonstrate and justify as high an asking price post COVID-19 amidst such uncertainty.
Add to that mix that, whilst we have the advantage of being based in the capital, we are lagging way behind the big 3 competing in the same city. Particularly in respect of overseas income generation. So with C & B specs off I don't see West Ham as a particularly attractive business opportunity. Certainly there is potential, as there probably is for every club in the land, but to compete at the highest level the infrastructure has to be in place, and can we honestly say ours is ? And with 3 of the so called big 6 in the capital is there really massive potential for a fourth to try and gatecrash the party ?
I haven't a clue how much money would need to be thrown at the "project" to make West Ham competitive in order to raise the bar to enable revenue streams from European participation to feature as future earnings, but it certainly wouldn't be cheap. And that's before we start looking at the expense involved in bringing the infrastructure up to the standards befitting a major player.
Using back of a beermat calculations let's assume the club is sold for a conservative £400 million. I would imagine team rebuilding would be the first item on the agenda. After all no point in having top class training facilities to tray and attract top players if you're swanning around mid table at best. So how much for that ? £200 million ? More or less ? Buggered if I know but a lot, certainly. And then how long would any new owner be prepared to tie up that amount of capital before seeing a return on their investment ?
So imo there are a lot of imponderables. Particularly given the very uncertain future of the financial landscape, and not just the footballing one. We are, by common consent heading for the biggest recession since the 1980s, maybe even since the 1929 crash, because of Covid-19. And that's before we factor in the potential fiasco and damage to business confidence if the government is unable to thrash out a post Brexit trade deal. So will people consider spending on TV packages , season tickets or overpriced club merchandise to represent good value for money if their family incomes start to shrink in real terms or even, in some cases, disappear due to job losses.
Interesting times lie ahead imo.
Fuck him ,you have to use a crowbar to open the old cunts pockets.Clayton wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:21 pmHarsh .Dwayne Pipes wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:18 pm Hear Golds not too well at the moment
Nothing trivial I hope.
Didn’t he “fall ill” the last time they started losing the media battle?Dwayne Pipes wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:18 pm Hear Golds not too well at the moment
Nothing trivial I hope.
It was George Gillett and Tom Hicks who came within 24 hours of putting Liverpool into administration..,.Whiskyman wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:49 pmMoyes would spend crazy money if he had it. At Man United he spent £37.5 million on Juan Mata, a decent signing imo, £27.5 million on Marouane Fellaini--Hmmm, and an undisclosed amount on one Saidi Jenko, of whom one might say --- Who ?Ibbyham wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:00 pm
Holliett was a Liverpool owner in late 2000s that was a disaster for Liverpool and ran out of funds and causes Liverpool in some debt.
O'Neill and Pellegrini spend over payments on players with little success but form will dip if players are flopped. At least Moyes don't spend crazy money on luxury players which is one plus but need to move himself to get players and stop fiddling with getting on the cheap and if players don't want to come to us, move on to the next one straightaway.
And we got a lot of benefit from his signing of Jordan Hugill didn't we ?
And I hate pissing on your parade but no one called Holliett has ever owned Licverpool. You don't mean Houllier do you ? He was their manager at the turn of the millennium.
He did indeed loves playing the victimToneLoc wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:36 pmDidn’t he “fall ill” the last time they started losing the media battle?Dwayne Pipes wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:18 pm Hear Golds not too well at the moment
Nothing trivial I hope.
Disguting, not harshClayton wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:21 pmHarsh .Dwayne Pipes wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:18 pm Hear Golds not too well at the moment
Nothing trivial I hope.
I can't remember the joint owners of Liverpool in late 2000s that their fans don't like them and yes some Moyes signing were poor so it is difficult to get a right player the club need so not an easy job.Whiskyman wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:49 pmMoyes would spend crazy money if he had it. At Man United he spent £37.5 million on Juan Mata, a decent signing imo, £27.5 million on Marouane Fellaini--Hmmm, and an undisclosed amount on one Saidi Jenko, of whom one might say --- Who ?Ibbyham wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:00 pm
Holliett was a Liverpool owner in late 2000s that was a disaster for Liverpool and ran out of funds and causes Liverpool in some debt.
O'Neill and Pellegrini spend over payments on players with little success but form will dip if players are flopped. At least Moyes don't spend crazy money on luxury players which is one plus but need to move himself to get players and stop fiddling with getting on the cheap and if players don't want to come to us, move on to the next one straightaway.
And we got a lot of benefit from his signing of Jordan Hugill didn't we ?
And I hate pissing on your parade but no one called Holliett has ever owned Licverpool. You don't mean Houllier do you ? He was their manager at the turn of the millennium.