Whiskyman wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:06 pm
mkhammer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:23 am
Butt in where ever and when ever you want mate...it's an open forum..everyone is entitled to say what they think,
makes it more entertaining as well...I love an argument...art is keeping them friendly and not swearing and name calling..
Used to have a few run ins with Nev,who used to get on here...really enjoyed them.
I accused him of Covid denial,cos he refuses to believe we have a higher death rate caused by Covid,we have lost 125,000
of us...directly or partially caused by Covid.....that maybe isn't counting those of us who have missed out on treatments,
and the diagnosis of problems due to it,that figure will rise when Covid goes,but will not be in the Covid death figures,
Covid will be responsible for more loses than the actual Covid figures state..
But why should we doubt the official figures ? If anything the government would have more reason to inflate, rather than deflate, the figures to reinforce their lockdown policies.
I agree deaths from cancelled treatment have probably happened and that is one of my criticisms of what I regard as hysteria over Covid. Sadly in times such as this, with limited NHS facilities, difficult decisions have to be made. Not nice for a doctor to have to decide whose life to try and save but I’m sure they have to. make those decisions daily.
But the over emphasis on Covid has probably taken away those decisions from the very people who maybe should be making them. It’s an unpalatable way of saying it but, at least for me,a child’s life, when it comes to the crunch, is a higher priority than an 80 or 90 year old.
And at the end of the day there will never be, Covid or no Covid, sufficient resources to avoid anyone having to make those calls.
The official figures are there to see for everyone to take in and acknowledge ,well most of us anyway ..some choose
to ignore them..FNY.....it's the underlying issues that are open to interpretation,how many deaths and problems has
it caused directly/indirectly, and how many will it cause...so it's my take on it not an official one.
Just showing a caring interest in it..it's important.
The Government will put out figures they are given,they'll get found out if they fuck with them...
Inflate.....could scaremonger into making us more aware.....but also could say they are doing a shit job at controlling it...
Deflate...makes us go Oh OK it's not so bad,and not adhere to restrictions....also they would be found out for BSing us...
So Neither Benefits.
The Age thing ..I do agree..I agree with a lot of stuff you guys are saying,like say I do get it...
Just have a different perspective on it and believe we are handling it in the best way poss..But I also have some serious questions
for Government ..when its over.....What Caused the huge Spike we had a couple months ago...it was massive,but notice
other countries aren't shaking it of as well as we are...so will have to wait till it's all over to see the outcome,
before can ..Crunch the Numbers or whatever you wanna call it,sounds crap calling peoples lifes just Numbers,but
sometimes you have to.