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Re: Hammers United - Video on page 18

Post by Phil » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:59 pm

Mikeveep wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:35 am
It does seem that no Fans are actually suffering here.....

Just excessive puffed up statistics from the Club, distasteful but not really causing any inconvenience, not really worth troubling "the hard working commitee" about.
there were plenty of fans moaning about it pre season
People getting offered a ST plus 2 while some on the list not getting a chance
so 2 people not on the list get a ST ahead of someone on the list who has paid a tenner

so it doesn't seem...
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Post by Mikeveep » Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:53 pm

I thought from Loxfords post that there were not yet any specific examples of that situation,Paul.

If there are one or two, of course it's a concern but there could be a reasonable explanation. with such big numbers involved.
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IronsForever wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:46 am
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I'll never get tired of watching that sketch. Pure class.
Did you see the " biggus dickus " sketch??
Of course. But for me this one is pure gold. The other scene that always sticks in my mind is when "The Messiah" tells his followers to FUCK OFF. Cleese looks at him an in a quizzical voice aske "How shall we fuck off" ? Funniest film I have ever seen mate.

And when it was released it got the god squad's tights in a tangle which has to be a result in my book. :D
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Post by prince of wales » Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:26 pm

Progress report from Hammers United.

Here is an update to the progress that we’re making on your behalf as another busy week comes to a close.

We continue in our efforts to raise awareness of away supporters in the home sections at the Olympic Stadium. As you should now be aware, this is a breach of the conditions of sale of their ticket, and the stewarding and security teams are under strict instructions to remove any away supporters that they are made aware off.

Having received a reply from West Ham (who have given their endorsement and assurances as to the competency of the third-party security and stewarding teams), and given the inability of those teams to address what is now a re-occurring issue, we have suggested that the club asks for a re-evaluation of the current processes, administers additional training where possible, and engages with visiting supporters clubs to advise against the practice of crashing the home end, detailing the risk and consequences of such behaviour.

You will also be seeing a number of us giving out stewarding advice leaflets around the ground and in the local area, raising the profile of Hammers United on matchdays. Members of our committee will always make themselves available to discuss any concerns you may have and can normally be found in the Plaistow Community Centre or The King Edward VII in Stratford on Matchdays.

Last week we attended the Football Supporters Federation Fans for Diversity Conference in London (supporting our own Pride of Irons who are nominated for an award) and met other fan groups from across the country.

We were at Westfield on Sunday announcing the lucky winner of our promotion with The London Pie and Mash Company.One of our members will win free pie and mash every home game.

The Season Ticket Waiting List is an issue that many have complained to us about and we continue to make good progress with our investigations into this and are encouraged by the support we continue to find here. If you are on the waiting list and continue to be frustrated by the lack of clarity around it, please reach out to us directly and we will discuss how we can help.

Progress is also being made with our investigations into Additional Seating at the stadium whilst we along with a number of other supporter’s groups await an update from the club regarding its partnership with SOCIOS.

We will have an update for you all next week on our Xmas bash.

We are also pleased to share that we are now formally engaged with both UEFA and the Government, with the support of the FSF, regarding the continued refusal of the club to meet with us as an independent supporters’ group.

On behalf of the committee, we wish you all a great week on the back of a cracking performance from the Hammers.-In a Champions League position.

Come on you Irons.

Hammers United Committee.

We are doing our best to improve things for West Ham Supporters.Check out our Website www.hammers united
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Post by prince of wales » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:19 am

We are pleased to announce we have now reached 5000 members.Next step is 6000 by Christmas.

Onwards Hammers United.We have to hold the club accountable for the broken promises.We have to press for dialogue on the issues important to West Ham supporters.We have to press the club to make available the necessary transfer funds.-And we are progressing well.

The larger our numbers the more influence we have.The first aim was to get to 5000 as soon as possible.This has been achieved so now we move on .You ,our members have joined up and made a commitment.-Please keep spreading the word.If your friends and colleagues are not on facebook point out that they can join by Email, by Emailing us on membership@hammersunited.com.We have around 5002 members at the time of writing.If each one of you joined just one person up today we would have 10000 overnight! Our Committee is totally committed and we will achieve our aims.

But we need your help.

Onwards and Upwards. Hammers United.

We are doing our best to to improve things for West Ham fans.Please check our website out at www.hammersunited.com
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Post by prince of wales » Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:25 am

Hammers United EGM Meeting Minutes

Venue: King Edward Public House Saturday 31st August 2019

I. Call to order

Paul Colborne, Chairman,called to order the Extra-ordinary General Meeting of Hammers United at 1110hrs at The King Edward Public House, Broadway, Stratford London

II. Roll Call

Joint Secretary Stephen Cross conducted a roll call and the following were present:- Lee rogers (Joint Secretary), Paul Colborne (Chairman) in the chair. Committee Members, Gary Marling, Sanjai Patel, Andy Payne, Gavin Redknap, Mark Telling.

There were a further fifty-seven Hammers United Members in attendance.

The Chairman read out apologies received from committee members Andrew Byrne and Gary Penfold and a large number of member apologies received due to travel disruption.

III. Approval of minutes from last meeting

Paul Colborne read the minutes from the last meeting. The minutes were approved as read.

IV. Open issues

a) Stewarding Initiative – Initiative launched on-line and leaflets being distributed to West Ham Fans to raise awareness. HU have written to the club regarding lack of action taken with Man City Fans in the home end. A sub-committee will be formed to drive this forward.

b) Season Ticket Waiting List – A letter has been sent to the club. A number of members again raised their frustration at this situation. We have a number of examples that we have asked the club to discuss with us and hope their swift co-operation will avoid having to escalate to regulatory bodies and news organisations.

c) Supporter Liaison – A series of letters are being reviewed by our legal advisor and will shortly be sent to both governing and government bodies.

d) Membership – We continue to grow as an organization with our membership standing at four thousand six hundred and ninety two (4,692) as at today’s date. Our goal is to achieve ten thousand (10,000) members by January 1st 2020.

e) Socios – Further to our initial letter to the club (to which we still await a reply) an on-line campaign has been created by a number of supporter’s groups, forums and social media outlets. We will be following up with a further letter to the club and update our members accordingly.

f) GDPR Compliance – We will shortly be undertaking a campaign with all of our members encouraging them to opt-in so we may directly forward them information regarding events and information pertinent to them.

V. New business

a) Ratification of Hammers United Constitution – Unanimously approved and ratified unanimously by all in attendance.

b) New Committee Members – The following were formally proposed, seconded and approved by the members present:- Andrew Byrne, Sanjai Patel, Gary Penfold, Gavin Rednap, Gary Marling and Andy Payne.

c) The Chairman highlighted that we still have two positions vacant on the committee and sought nominations from the floor. Michael Campbell was subsequently nominated, formally seconded and elected unanimously.

d) Stadium Seating – A project is to be led by a HU sub-committee to understand the current state on progress made and investigating alternatives in line with member requests.

e) Committee & Sub-Committee Project Alignment – Sub-Committees to be created to lead on Hammers United initiatives by 7th September.

f) Press & Media –

i) Social Media (Facebook, Twitter & Instagram) presence needs dedicated attention to raise HU profile in line with membership goals. Sub-committee and officers to be appointed.

ii) News/Press Coverage – A number of initiatives involving local newspapers, on-line journalists and the BBC were discussed in line with current initiatives. These will be coordinated and managed moving forward by a sub-committee group.

VI. Any Other Business

a) OSB – Frustration at their positioning by the club continues – suggestions for HU members to join individually for insight discussed and dismissed. A number of HU Members and some committee members sat on the previous incarnation (SAB), and its felt by our membership and committee that it wouldn’t be a productive use of time.

b) WHUSIA – Further to initially encouraging conversations with the reincarnated supporters group WHUISA over joint initiatives, and their disappointing public withdrawal of support for Hammers United’s Stewarding Initiative (created in conjunction with the FSA for the benefit of all West Ham supporters), we will not be working collaboratively together at this time.

c) Away Season Tickets – This was raised by several members as an area of immense frustration, with particular emphasis on the recent away cup match at Newport County, where the current system saw the allocation appear only half taken. Accordingly, it will become an initiative and we will create a sub-committee to drive this forward.

VII. Adjournment

Paul Colborne, Chairman, adjourned the meeting at 1215hrs thanking all for their attendance and wishing them a good game and a safe journey home.

Minutes submitted by: Stephen Cross
Minutes approved by: Lee Rogers & Paul Colborne
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Post by Mikeveep » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:16 am

Now we're winning a few games, the new stadium don't seem such a bad place.

I'm probably not typical but I'll just accept these little imperfections.

And I am affected....I used to go to 9/10 away games for the last 15 years but now my 14 points at start of the season wont get me anywhere. I can understand that this is primarily due to increased demand,lower prices and whilst a few tickets may be being syphoned off for use as inducements for premium seating purchases at Home, I.think those numbers are insignificant.

My real gripes? International breaks and the continual lessening of Saturday 3.00 kick offs.
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Post by h69 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:22 am

Mikeveep wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:16 am

My real gripes? International breaks and the continual lessening of Saturday 3.00 kick offs.
goodpost:) Agree completely. Oh for most games to be back at 3pm on a Saturday.
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Post by Whiskyman » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:29 am

Mikeveep wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:16 am
Now we're winning a few games, the new stadium don't seem such a bad place.

I'm probably not typical but I'll just accept these little imperfections.

And I am affected....I used to go to 9/10 away games for the last 15 years but now my 14 points at start of the season wont get me anywhere. I can understand that this is primarily due to increased demand,lower prices and whilst a few tickets may be being syphoned off for use as inducements for premium seating purchases at Home, I.think those numbers are insignificant.

My real gripes? International breaks and the continual lessening of Saturday 3.00 kick offs.
I think you are probably more typical than you think Mike. I no longer attend but I have watched football from the OS and I've been to grounds where my seat has been nearer the action but have had a far worse view. But I accept I'm not affected like those who go. However if I did still go I'd be well happy my journey home would take around 60 minutes less than it did getting back from Upton Park.

Nonetheless until the ultimate ownership of the stadium is sorted out the configuration of seating, layout and so on is out of the club's hands. Stewarding ? Most of the stewards who used to be at Upton Park were fine in my experience but I have seen one or two acting like total jobsworths and it sounds as if this is still the case.

But imo the bottom line is we're doing OK and when you're doing OK everything does seem a lot better all round. If I still attended it honestly wouldn't worry me if the bloke sitting next to me supported the other lot, providing he didn't get in my face. When I went away I always sat amongst home fans because I always got my tickets from the home club. Never got given any grief, nor did I hand any out. Live and let live.

Make you spot on about international breaks but if clubs want the Sky money to give us the top players to go and watch I'm afraid we just have to accept the days of 15.00 kick offs for all are long gone.
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Post by prince of wales » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:53 am

Hammers United, Our Journey so far.
“You have to know the past to understand the present”
(Carl Sagan)
Firstly I don’t wish to dwell on the past. However we must understand how we have arrived here. So how far do we go with our trip down Memory Lane? Our Working Class roots & heritage in shipbuilding? The general strike? Football through the war? There is so much History. Then there’s the heady days of the 60’s 70’s and 80’s which saw a prolonged period of relative success (I raise a glass to all here who were there in those days) which led to the tag of “The Academy of Football” and saw WH become many peoples “other” team. During this period when travel became widely available at football our fans reputation often preceded us wherever we travelled. The cheeky cockney wit, never say die attitude and loyalty to the Claret & Blue that was envied far and wide.
So we arrive then, via a period of limited success, through the Icelandic Takeover & the associated debt, to the arrival of our current owners. West Ham fans apparently , they would not have risked the takeover for any other club. They would stabilise the debt, and work towards the jewel in their crown, the newly built Olympic Stadium. The lure of increased revenue and attendance was used to promise “A World Class Stadium for a World Class Team.’
It was here that I, Like many, lost the plot. We were taken in by the promises. I just wish we could turn the clock back and do things differently but sadly we didn’t. We took our 30 pieces of silver and “endorsed” in some small way the move to Stratford. Cue broken promises, missed targets and the rest. We should have stuck together. We’ve done it before. Be it 50 at a grim Northern ground in the 70’s making ourselves heard and supporting the team. Or the glorious days of the Bond Scheme Protests. We’re West Ham. It’s what we do. Only this time we didn’t
So the game was lost. And we now see what I feel is the gentrification of football. This is a world where fans are replaced by consumers and customers. More Opera than Upton Park. And I don’t really like what I see.
That brings us to November 2017 and an upsurge in Fans who were willing to stand up and seek answers. With the threat of a large scale march in March 2018 on the cards the Club twitched. Bad Publicity is a genuine fear for these people, damage to brand reputation. And it was on the way to their door, carried by many thousands of Fans who’d quite simply had enough.
A coalition was built, meetings were held and concessions made. Sadly this was where the bubble burst. Normal people up against a multi-million pound machine. Out manoeuvred by the Club the coalition broke down. Two smaller marches went ahead but for many, momentum was lost. And the anger turned to apathy. Many have walked away, others may soon join them. A sad state of affairs. Then came Burnley and for me the hope that the spark was still there. To see the corner flag raised in protest, as we had so many years before was an iconic moment. Someone who cared enough, not about himself, as his actions earned him a lifetime ban (which he accepts), but for all fans. He could stand no more. The rest, as they say, is History. And at that point we will leave the past behind.

“We can’t completely understand and build a better future without knowledge of the past. The past informs the future”
(F. Scott Fitzgerald)
In February this year I was contacted and being fairly outspoken on SM asked for my thoughts on starting a new Supporters group. I met shortly after with some other like-minded people and all agreed that we owed it to everyone to try once more. To succeed we would need to gather large numbers and importantly attempt to heal our divided fan base. With this in mind, Hammers United launched in March 2019. We currently have c5050 members.- Not bad as we have only been in existence for less than 6 months.We want to have dialogue with the club and help bring improvements to the match-day experience for all supporters. At the same time we must encourage the club to invest in the playing squad.
We have now established a committee, ratified by our members at an open meeting in Plaistow. We have a constitution , a website, Facebook, Twitter and Instagram presence and members also have the ability to register via email.We are full associates of the Football Supporters Association..
Most of us are new to this but make no mistake. We are learning fast. We have written to the club requesting a meeting. This was, as expected, refused. They suggested we apply for a seat on the OSB which was declined by our members 9-1. And here’s the thing. Yes.. our members declined. Because they run Hammers United. We are on hand to do the day to day stuff but our Members dictate the strategy.
The club refuse to meet us and as such are in breach of Premier League,Uefa and Government guidelines, so we have sent formal complaints to all three.We have launched an initiative to assist our fans should they experience inappropriate stewarding.We have written to the club asking them to look into the many anomalies of their season ticket waiting list.We have written raising concerns at away fans in West Ham sections. -One by one we are addressing the issues important to West Ham supporters.These things take time but we are doing our best.
So what happens next? And where is the End Game going to take place? Honestly that’s a question none of us can answer. But I’ll say this. When we launched we all agreed this wasn’t going to be easy. Quite the opposite; I’m still stunned at the amount of work that’s involved so I tip my hat to all who do this on WH sites or groups and salute you.
One thing is clear. This will be a long campaign. I fully believe we will need to demonstrate “Fan Power” in whatever form it takes. But equally I firmly believe it’s worth fighting for. There are currently two options. Put up and shut up, or walk away. I understand why people have chosen to take each option but for me both choices are unpalatable. At Hammers United we want to offer you option 3. Make a stand, Together. I will keep trying till the game is up, and beyond, if you will all stand with me.
We have some good people on and around our committee. We have the backing of many loyal supporters.We had both a show of support and also a fair grilling about our intentions during the open meeting we held. More will come this season. We’re not going away. And we will be visible if you want to come and see us on and around match days.
But, and it’s a massive but, our commitment will only carry us so far. We need the most important ingredient in all this to succeed. YOU…. THE WEST HAM FANS… without you we are just a group of people who want to change things. We can steer the ship but it’s YOU that will make it happen. All of you. When 10-20-30k people say no, the board will have to listen. But we have to make a stand. TOGETHER.
So who’s up for it? If you’re not a member join. Tell everyone. Friends, family & work colleagues. When you see Hammers in the pub or on the train to games, talk to them. We have 5050 members. If everyone signed up one person by the end of October we’d have 10,100,. Do the same again in November 20,200. You can make this happen.
It’s time to take back what’s ours,
Our tradition and heritage is being eroded. We are being gentrified.-And what about the ‘world class team for a world class stadium’?
Make a Stand, Say “No More”
We can do it, as Hammers… United…
Who’s with us?
Find out more and join us at
www.hammersunited.com
Thanks.-The Hammers United Committee.
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