dagenhamdave wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:36 am
I stand corrected at the moment with Fornals, but I always feel we chase too many Foreign players trying to get a bargain, when only occasionally it works. When you buy any player with no Pl experience, you always take a chance, as a few seasons ago when we bought about a dozen of them, that worked out well didn't it, what's ZaZa the onloan player doing now.
Nothing against Fornals personally, as a WH supporter I hope he does well, as I do ALL the players, I just feel we should try and get a few more PL players if possible, not ALL foreigners, so they can hit the ground running a lot quicker. Many people including me do not think the quality of players under MP brought in have been that good considering how many millions have been spent. MP had a dream, but never had the quality of players to fulfil it, hence he struggled and got the sack. Maybe Fornals will be the shining exception.
Go further back a few years and look at our history of buying players, very few quality players in all that time.
You make a valid point. But isn't it always a risk signing a player? Generally speaking our transfer dealings since I've supported the club have been, on balance, pretty crap. Foreign and home grown. In fact probably our biggest waste of money expenditures have been Dyer, Carroll and now Wilshere. And let's not forget Dean Ashton also had a pretty shocking fitness record when we signed him, although of course we got a lot more from him when he was fit than the 3 wasters I've mentioned.
Unfortunately it's a fact of life that established players of genuine quality don't want to come to clubs like West Ham. And even if they did they would be way outside our transfer budget. So we have to look for bargains and, because of the price premium put on home grown players, those bargains can often only be found overseas.
It would be great if we could go into the market and sign players at the peak of a glittering career. But to do that the whole profile of the club has to be raised. Many years back I met one of our former players, a Redknapp signing, who had played at the top level for a top club and had played for England, although only once. He spoke about his career and, as well as being bloody good company and entertaining, made one very revealing remark. He said that players who had played at the top and were "on the slide" as he put it, saw clubs like West Ham (and there's very many of them) as a good source of pressure free income. The only aspiration was that the club didn't get relegated. It was a kind of holiday camp mentality.
And I would guess there are a heck of a lot of clubs where that same ethos applies. As for Zaza btw since leaving us he's played for Valencia where he featured in the Champions League and is now back playing in Italy. And he has been called into the Italian national squad by Roberto Mancini. So maybe he wasn't such a bad player but suffered because je was playing with some right old pony. when he was at our place