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Post by Castiron » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:31 pm

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Post by dorsetdano » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:47 pm

Market economics rule, in general the richest clubs with the most revenue will always win in the long run. Mourinho is sulking because he is arguably managing the biggest club historically and also by number of fans, but he can't compete with money bags Man City (my, yours and everyone else's hearts bleed for him - its so unfair)!

The good news is that in England at least so far, there are six fairly permanent competitors for the league title and there is still the prospect that an outsider (maverick) will come up with a formula to win the league (eg Leicester only two seasons ago) and there is still a chance of someone breaking into that limited monopoly. Where the real excitement exists is in the relegation struggle and the fact if you get things badly wrong you not only get relegated, but despite getting unfair parachute payments for being relegated that should protect you, you screw up to such a grand extent you get relegated twice.

This has happened to supposedly fairly big clubs in the fairly recent past like Southampton, Wolves, Leeds and Shef Wed (the blunts don't count). The latter two have really struggled to get back into the prem and although everyone acknowledges that Soton are a well run club who have mostly got their management decisions right and have set up a good youth recruitment scheme they will also struggle, after a single bad season. If you are not one of the big six you need several good seasons of results, recruitment and a large fan base and history to push you forward.

In other major countries, you probably need less to move you forward, but none of their leagues are as competative. In Spain, Germany, Italy or France how many different teams have won their respective leagues in the last decade. Two or three in most of those them, where as in England its five different winners in the last ten years. What is critical is that the Prem stands firm and basically splits the TV revenues relatively evenly. The Spanish system has Real & Barca both earning huge TV revenues versus their rival teams in their League, even in years when they aren't doing well individually; this gives them as a club breathing time to recover.

The real worry is will a European League rise Phoenix like containing say 6 English clubs, 2 Spanish clubs, 2 German clubs, 2 Italian, a French, a Russian, a Dutch, a Turkish, a Greek, a Belguim, a Portugese and a Scottish clubs with no relegation and promotions. Fortunately the arguements in all of these countries about who their representatives will be will hopefully stop it ever happening.

The big 6 clubs in the Prem are keeping their options open by meeting with the representatives of anyone looking at setting up such a league, but also using the possibility of a Euro league to try and force the remaining 14 small clubs to vote for the big 6 to be given more revenue or they will desert the Prem and be part of the creation of the new Euro League.

The real worry is will someone come along with a real agenda and a bottomless pit of money to fund a game changer. Where we are fortunate is that the real entraprenauers/risk takes in the US don't understand soccer (sic). Lets hope a young Kerry Packer/ Rupert Murdoch with money doesn't grab the opportunity in the same way that the Premier League grabbed the global football market over the last fifteen years.

I may be wrong, but I think WH voted with the big boys agreeing for a bigger share for the large clubs because the dildo twins thought we (laughably) were due to break into this exclusive club!

So yes our League is becoming less competative in some ways, but we are much better off than all of the other countries in Europe, from that point of view and because the Premier League is the top of the tree it will continue to get more and more overseas investment and therefore increase its lead over all of it's European rivals because it is exciting and uncertain.

Will we ever become one of the big clubs? Who knows! Under our present owners, unlikely; but with our fabulous transport links and iconic stadium who knows (sic)! shakeass
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Post by Whiskyman » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:10 pm

Imo a European League is certain to happen. But for it to be both relevant and competitive there has to be promotion and relegation into and out of it. And quite how that's going to be worked out is anyone's guess. One thing is for certain there won't be 6 English clubs in it, that's for sure.
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Post by terrya1965 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:20 pm

Under our present owners I would say we are more likely to end up in League 2,than the Top 6 in the PL.
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Post by Dwayne Pipes » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:48 pm

All them top clubs can fuck off for all I care.
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Post by Hammerwell2008 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:15 am

Dwayne Pipes wrote:All them top clubs can fuck off for all I care.

:o :o Yeah but then we'd never beat / draw with anyone and that would lead to certain relegation , lets not forget we only seem to turn up to games against the big 6 ;)
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