h69 wrote:Towie wrote:
Not quite sure why you saying the table don’t lie after 4 bloody games, it really doesn’t mean anything, and as for hitting the ground running...
It is a 38 game season as Bournemouth & palace proved last year after both losing first 4 games, palace first 7 without scoring in fact!
No one has ever been relegated in September ffs,
As the thread name says, get a grip man.
In fact it was interesting to see the press talking about this and pretty much echoing what you just said on the Sunday Supplement yesterday. Apparently these were the same press that everyone agreed with when the shambles at Burnley happened last season.
The fact is that there are some on here that think that if you dont feel suicidal because we have not won any of our first 4 games you think everything is 'dandy'.
In reality it is somewhere in between. A poor start but a long way to go yet. I dont think we will really see the team play well until December. I thought that originally in the summer, I still do.
As Martin Samuel and the others were saying yesterday, if you change the mentality of the team and completely alter the way they play and think then this takes time but it would be sad for a team not to be ambitious because the fans dont have the patience.
Makes me laugh. Many of the people on here melting down when Moyes and Allardyce were in charge wanted a complete change of mentality and playing style yet expect it to start producing results instantly. When it doesnt, they are melting again. Preseason will not achieve that as you give everyone a game.
4 games FFS....as the OP says, get a grip. I wonder where all the supporters are gone these days as I see no support now, just an expectation that we need to be winning playing expansive football instantly.
Support means exactly that, not screaming abuse at the players, manager and each other because we have not won the first 4 games, two of which we have only once won both of in the last 50 years.
Palace last season tried the same, the same thing happened in the first four games so they changed their minds and got Roy in, another defensive coach. They stayed up but they are a defensive team and almost never win when Zaha is not playing. The stats are stunning in that regard. Is that what people want to happen, that we abandon a project already ?
Me, I think it is worth sticking with right now but if at Christmas it still doesnt work then maybe we need to change.
Despite what Castiron thinks, I dont have an issue with people being pessimistic as it is as much a part of the modern Sky era football now as Friday night games and not just at our club but all clubs but I do think some realism needs applying here sometimes.
Don't try and make it about me and you thanks.
I don't give a monkies what you think.
I come on here to get people's varying views on our club, and it's all about opinions.
What I don't do is take the piss out of people, with laughing emojis, just because their view is different to mine. You belittle people, and I don't like people that do that, it's bullying in my eyes.
As I said, if most people on here are melts, as you keep saying, why not just fuck off somewhere else, where you can act the high and mighty with like minded people?.