Porterman wrote:IronsForever wrote:Porterman wrote:
I thought we looked "slightly organised" when basically 4-4-2 even with Norddisaster at RB and a bank of 4 (even though I though Obiang and Noble won next to nothing) in front of it after the opening 5 minutes.
[highlight=]Playing Antonio up top did exactly what it ssaid on the tin by having an outball over the top (actually thought he should have done better when he got a similar ball over the top earlier) and Ayew although contributing next to nothing attacking wise ran about a bit and at least put a bit of pressure on them in the final third.
That TOTALLY DISINTEGRATED when Carroll came on and Antonio went FUCK KNOWS WHERE.[/highlight]
In a heartbeat we had lost all mobility up front, put an extra man behind the ball which just confused us as suddely everybody was standing off them allowing them to come forward almost at will and on the occasions we did win the ball we had virtually no outball, at all (save the big hoof in the hope it hit Carrolls head)!!
Of course Slav tonight can claim justification and OF COURSE it great to have got a point.
Think you have to KEEP SIGHT of the fact that you mention though....IT WAS ABSOLUTE CHAOS virtually for the last 30 mins in a game where we had actually a decent foothold and a win was not out of the question.
Do I feel confident for the two 6 pointers this week?
If I thought he would keep a line up that would keep going forward and trying to press the opposition back then yes.
Sadly I dont see that although hopefully be proved wrong!!!
Surely we can play a high tempo pressing game for 90 mins against Burnley and Hull at home?
Yes it did, but Billic then changed it when he brought Fernandes on and stuck him right back and pushed Antonio right Mid to cover the threat down our right flank. I give Bilic credit for seeing that mistake of putting Carroll up and Antonio at right back and Nord in right Mid.No idea what that was all about but he saw the mistake and played Antonio RM after and slotted Nord back in front of defense..I would have loved to see Carroll play the no10 role and leave Antonio up because Andy was getting so many flick ons from Randolphs kicks it would have given Antonio a chance to run at them.
I take the point all day long and praise Billic for seeing the mistake he made and to quickly change it, putting Antonio in 3 different positions and also Nord.
Antonio was Man of the match.
Managers do make mistakes but not many have the balls to change them so quickly.
Fair point Irons but would have to ask you a couple of questions.
1) How did Bilic think that by totally and utterly negating what was to all intents and purposes our strongest weapon ie Antonios running and pace that it was going to lead to us being then almost totally ineffective in the not just the final third but about 80% of the pitch?!
2) When did Fernandez become a right back?!
Without wanting to slaughter the guy (because hes young and playing out of what I perceive to be not his position) I thought it almost became "open season" (wait for the rush from the great Antipodean writers to crawl from under) down that side as Milner became almost their most attacking player!!!
I know we are short at RB (thats an understatement) but I thought we lost ALL SHAPE when that move happened.
Of course we know football is fine lines and we are celebrating a good point....but did Bournmouth change thier formation when they realized Liverpools back line is absolutely gash when pressed as we had found out when we scored an absolute dolly of a second goal ( and dont forget Antonio had a very similar chance earlier on when EXACTLY the same thing happened but made a bit of a hash of it)!!
I also think your point re " Carroll at number 10" is interesting as I actually want to see him get game time. This isnt about "lets not ever put Carroll on" its simply "how do we do it without totally and utterly isolating him and giving him the best chance to succeed?!
Well the only thing I can say is that now we are spending time playing players in odd positions solely to accommodate the lack if a decent RB. It is the hole in our bucket that needs firmly plugging with the correct plug and not a rag just to lighten the flow. If it had been sorted pre season or more in the window we could have players settling in to their designed positions instead of being left as a stop gap.
" Hey Antonio , how are you settling into your position in the club?"
" And what position are you referring to?"