Neville Bartos wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:22 pm
mkhammer wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:02 am
We see this differently Nev.....to me that is not a "Joke" it is a statement.....a statement that
is saying it's ok and funny to throw Acid at a person....
Trust me mate this PC Crap pisses me off as much as it does you....but we must still have some
kinda recognisable boundaries,in what is acceptable to say and not...
Can't say what the hell you want no matter how anti social,under the guise of a "Joke"
We can't have a free for all where absolutely anything goes....that is a Nasty Nasty vindictive
bordering on evil thing to say.....and anyone that thinks it's funny to throw acid in someones
face.....I'm sorry but you need to check out where you are in life...
I'm certain you didn't find it funny mate....and are just coming at from a "Freedom of Speech"
Jeez, mate this is all part of snowflake culture.
Anything, literally anything, removed from context is a statement.
The context here is this was said by a comedian on a comedy programme, and was even qualified afterwards as NOT being advice.
Think what we're saying about ourselves as a society by suggesting any reference to violence, irrespective of context, is incitement.
That no-one can be trusted to use their common sense? That we're all too thick to understand the difference between humour or satire and advice or instruction.
I don't buy it. No normal, reasonable person is going to listen to a joke on a comedy show and think to themselves 'I know, I'll attack an MP with acid'. So are we saying we need to pander to lunatics? Don't mention violence, John is a violent nazi and it could set him off.
And if you think Brand's joke is criminal, rather than poor taste, how about Farage talking about picking up a rifle if he doesn't get the Brexit he wants?
I'd assumed he was joking, but the context wasn't a comedian making a joke on a comedy show.
I was making an assumption based on common sense and reason. Something certain sections of society don't credit the public with the capacity to do anymore.
One of the reasons I love this Country we all live in so much is because of the free speaking free
thinking society we have created here.....people may slag it off for one reason or another,but
the fact remains its as a free a Democracy as anyone is ever gonna get...
But that doesn't mean anything and anyone is fair game....and it's morally and ethically wrong
that as a society we say its OK to laugh at Children burning in a tower block,and throwing acid
in someones face.....
We're allowed to say it cos of what I've said it being a "Free" democracy..but what I'm getting
at is,it still shouldn't be "OK" to do so .....people that resort to that stuff shouldn't be called
"funny comedians" or having any political,moral, or otherwise valid opinions.
For the life of me mate,I just do not get people finding it funny,or acceptable, I'll laugh at
most stuff, have a crack and a wind up...I love it, far from being a boring pc do gooding prude,
but you must agree there has to be limits on what is morally accepted.
We can't stop these arseholes from saying this shit,tho some of it Legally I can see them being
brought to the courts.....very borderline some of it...personally I don't want to see that,some kinda
big brother approach,last thing I want.
I just wanna see it looked down on....not applauded,like most things in life,whether its politics,
or this sorta stuff...it's the extremes,pushing the boundaries we have to be aware of....
Very fragile society we live in now...gotta be careful what we say,you can't accidentally call
someone "Coloured",but you can say why don't we throw acid in that blokes face....very strange...
We need Boundaries mate...