palerider wrote:It's tragic. Awful. And disgusting if cost-cutting has led to probably 70 plus deaths. What price do you put on a life ?
And somebody or somebodies have to be brought to account.
But watching the scenes at Kensington Town Hall and later in central London yesterday make me think that Corbyn and his Marxist cohorts are using this to their vile advantage,
I'm not suggesting Jezza isn't sympathetic to the grief. I think he's a nice old bloke actually. Just deluded. But there are many closely around him who in truth care little for the victims. This dreadful event couldn't have come at a better time for their march to power after Theresa May completely fucked up the election.
1400 people marched to Downing Street last night demanding the Tories are booted out. I saw banners from Socialist Worker and the Revolutionary Communist Group amongst the Justice for Grenfell ones. I wonder how many of these work-shy soap-dodgers actually live in or around White City. I wonder how many are legally in the fucking country.
This weekend will be the hottest of the year and tensions are high. Today or tomorrow it could turn very nasty indeed.
It's not the time to make political gain but Corbyn's Labour are doing just that and it's really what they stand for. A society where having a few bob is almost unlawful.
And why May, or whoever eventually replaces her as leader of the Conservatives, which I'd personally welcome, have to get their shit together and see out the storm.
There is nothing wrong with people earning a few bob for a living.People that have good jobs with decent wages deserve that.
The tories though have never thought fairly for everyone.They just fight for their own.The Bankers were bailed out by the good old taxpayer and the working class got Austerity.Then there is privatisation,mostly sold on the cheap so the money men earn a fortune.The thing that really winds me up about it,is the taxpayer that still subsidises the private companies.
Another example this week,May`s MP`s lost their seats,they automatically get 28K plus other expenses,but May said she is going to help them out ,even though most of them have 3 or 4 other jobs.You couldn`t make it up,could you?
That is why many despise these people.
All of that may very well be true Terry. It's an opinion.
But what has that to do with a fire in a block of flats?
You - along with many others - seem to be blaming this fire on "cuts", the Tories, the PM, Austerity programmes, capitalism and just about anything else that can be lumped in - as if a fire in a block of flats would never happen under a Labour government. I assume, by this logic, that Kings Cross was the Tories fault too? And therefore Aberfan was the Labour Party's fault?
This fire was not political. It was tragic event that took the lives of a lot of people.
To try to make political capital out of it - which the left are doing without a doubt - is repellent.
There are systems in place to ensure that building materials used on any project are considered acceptable by experts. To act as if some greedy developer popped down the market and got a load of cheap crap to bung on his block of flats ignores reality.
Materials must be properly licensed for use. They are inspected and OKd by experts. A council has building inspectors to ensure that the materials are correct, and correctly installed. And no building gets signed off for occupation unless he is happy and has OKd the project.
Sometimes all these many experts in their fields get it wrong, and a set of circumstances emerge that was unforeseen. Like Kings Cross. To then blame the PM is like blaming her because my car was recalled for a fault on the airbag.
And Thames. Mate, you've gone off on one again about the "left wing media". Can I suggest that you look at the BBC Website - your favourite lefty-liberal targets. Their coverage is very balanced. Calm. Factual.
Now have a look at Sky's Website. The right wing press. Murdoch. It is a disgusting, inflammatory, accusatory collection of shouty nonsense. It appears it is the right wing press who are getting all foamy-mouthed in this case mate.