Neville Bartos wrote:
Agreed. I think modern parenting forces kids to grow up too quickly. And there's a staggering number of stories about young children being left alone, or being allowed to wander about in public unsupervised.
There seems to be a generation of parents who see their children as something of an inconvenience. Instead of playing or engaging with their children they're all too often plonked in front of a TV or gaming system, or worse still ignored.
Anyway, onto grooming gangs.
I think you're right in that these gang members occupy some kind of cultural no man's land.
Caught between the ultra conservatism of their cultural/religious past and the sexual liberation of western society.
That said, a frightening number of men have a marked sense of entitlement when it comes to sex.
There are thousands of reported instances of drink spiking every year. And drug assisted rape is hard to detect, and reduces the likelihood of reporting and conviction.
The raw figures are frightening even if they're halfway accurate -- over three quarters of a million adult women in the UK say they've been victims of rape. The conviction rate for rape cases that go to court is 6%. Drugs like GHB can't be detected a few hours after use. And, tellingly, well over half of drug assisted rapes are carried out by people the victim knows.
These gangs appear to have exactly the same sense of entitlement. They also use drugs and alcohol to coerce/force vulnerable women into sexual relationships.
What I personally fail to see though is any moral difference between a Muslim rapist/abuser and a non Muslim rapist/abuser. Gang or no gang.
Surely the child aspect of these crimes has more to do with vulnerability than paedophilia?
In that regard I think the reasoning, if you can call it that, isn't the same as someone who is specifically looking to abuse children. It's more that young women and girls are easier to manipulate and coerce.
And you're right, it isn't opportunism, but far more often than not neither are individual cases of abuse and/or rape.
The gang aspect of grooming and abuse should make detection easier, though I would suggest the pattern for this kind of abuse is similar, irrespective of whether it's an individual or a gang.
What I still find staggering is that anyone would seek to cover this, or any kind of abuse, up.
Well thought out and considered as always, mate.
Thing is a majority of these "men" I use the term loosely,haven't just arrived here,a good percentage
have been here for many years,most I hear, have,in the Rotherham case anyway,have Yorkshire
accents,some indeed born and bred......the culture excuse I'm sorry.....NO...
I't simply a gang of guys taking advantage of a situation,knowing they have more leeway than
the likes of you and me.......because of the racist card...There is no defence for this.....
(doubt if many are devout Muslims anyway)
I've read big parts of the Koran and do understand where your coming from Gonz...
(also read most of the Old testament....thought it was the same piece of writing at times...)
We need to scrap using the term Muslim......A huge majority of Muslims I know and have met
are amazing people....friendly helpful,family orientated,and are a pleasure to be around.
Like Nev has said this shit behaviour is not limited to These guys.....Black Gangs in London
and elsewhere will gang rape young girls......Police Know....do nothing....as been mentioned
Catholic church had a huge problem.....nothing was done by authorities....Bloody Football
coaches now,taking advantage of young lads.....
That's it "taking advantage" of a situation..........
So when Robinson says.......Muslim Gangs are raping young underage girls,it's fact,but what
he saying is not against the Muslim religion as a whole,but this group of people are allowed
to get away with things because they "are" Muslim.......That's what's wrong......
The Black gangs get away with it cos old bill are scared of retaliation/creating unrest..
which leads to ..you know what....(same goes for the drug dealing,gun running shit as well)
Catholic Church got away with it cos of friends in high places....
All abusing and taking advantage of what they can....
We need to break this left and right shit....and every comment someone makes about this
topic is somehow racist.....it's ridiculous ...