whu wrote:h69 wrote:
I havent judged them all Dave, I am sure many are there making their point correctly and fairly and so fair play to them but I personally would not want to be seen supporting an organisation with members openly displaying Nazi salutes despite agreeing with some of the points they are trying to make. I'd feel the same if I saw West Ham fans going round doing it also.
As for all muslims being terrorists or child molesters, only a moron would actually believe that.
Lets be honest though, marching achieves the square root of fuck all anyway so the whole protest has achieved nothing positive.
yeah, a march never changed on single thing in life, ever
i couldn't disagree more
why do people do it then? from the suffragettes to poll tax - you actually think every march has never changed anything whatsoever?
i'm sure you're just fishing but that's actually quite a naïve point
15-20,000 in Whitehall on any subject, will be firmly noted by the powers that be
probably the same as one in five voting ukip had zero impact on tory immigration policy?
what's your answer in a democracy then? vote, wait 4-5 years, vote again, the end?
heard this a thousand times, the old NIMBY - then people start lobbying their mp and arranging protest - to be seen to try to make change
Like I said on the football March thread, the last march that actually had some effect was the Suffragettes.....even the poll tax riots only succeeded in getting the poll tax changed to a different name.
If you think that a few people marching up and down Whitehall made a difference last week then fair play to you but you seem to think that the govt didn't know anything about this before and so the march made the views of them 'firmly noted'
However, I saw a graphic the other day of the priorities for all the govts around the western world ranked and 1 and 2 were Terrorism and Immigration in almost every country including ours so I ask again, what has this march achieved ?
Protests only happen because people feel helpless but it wont change. You mention the Tory immigration policy, but what is that exactly .. has it even changed, they always have targets that are lower than what they achieve and always will.
However, I will wait and see what a couple of thousand people manage to achieve in the next year. This march was banging on about 'free Tommy Robinson' but he broke the law and so lets see whether the law is changed because of this march.