Neville Bartos wrote:
The Main reason the average man and women voted leave..was to protect our Borders
and protect us from the the mass migration that Germany was welcoming into the EU
on our fucking behalf.....(Economics of it was a distant 2nd 3rd)....
After a while these Economic migrants/(Asylum seekers) get the freedom of movement across the EU..
Not done not on a humanitarian level..but to bolster their economy,their infrastructure can
handle high immigration they need it "At the Moment" ours doesn't need such high levels and
can't handle it, if people can't see that then...well...
No offence mate, but that's just plain wrong.
According to polls the main reasons behind a leave vote were political and judicial autonomy.
No EU member state is legally obliged to allow any non EU citizens to enter that state. Irrespective of how many refugees Germany allows in.
Refugees seeking asylum are not entitled to citizenship anywhere in the EU. And as the UK is not a member of Schengen, any non EU national attempting to enter the UK, even from an EU country, is subject to border control and customs. In fact even people from EU member states are subject to those things.
This is exactly the kind of non factual fear mongering I find exasperating.
Almost as exasperating as I find people holding the EU to account for unfettered immigration, but letting our own government off the hook for allowing just as many non EU immigrants in. If we didn't need em, why did the Tories let them all in?
Believe "Polls" all you want mate....I don't....go on what I personally hear see and feel...
not all but some polls are contrived.
The Majority of People I talk to, listen to,watch on the "bloke on the street"interviews..
Various forums and chat rooms via internet,googling around in general etc...The Main Concern
that crops up time and time again, for why they choose to vote leave is the "Immigration topic"
Rightly or wrongly, the fear of the Unknown....how many will come...
The worry of how it affects,Housing,Benefits,Overloading the NHS,Jobs,Schools,the worry of
Eastern European Mafia type Gangs taking over their Cities,Towns and Villages....
How will it affect me/us personally and our Economy etc.
Not Scaremonger mate...I'll leave that to others...just genuine concerns,that people are
worried about....they want some control back if at all possible.
That's the reason we are in a Leave situation..the average man and woman doesn't know
how it will affect business/trade....you just give opinions on that,depending on how much
you care and want to find out...that goes for Politicians as well,anyone that say's this
is the defined outcome of Brexit is talking crap....its an opinion.
The Word Politics in your "Poles" doesn't so much mean the "Whos in power Politics"
more a generalisation I spect.....we have control of our Parliament..well....
what I mean..
Unless I'm very much mistaken once an Immigrant enters a Foreign country,is accepted,
lives there for a predetermined amount of time it varies across Europe 3-8 years I beleive
you can then apply for citizenship and if accepted be awarded the passport of that country
and all the rights that go with....if in Germany this would make you an EU citizen with
the right of Economic movement if you choose it.
However your right about the short term movement of "Legal Asylum seekers"it's the long
term we need to look at,and be aware of,and to be honest there's an awful lot of the
4or5 million Germany alone is welcoming in the near future,that won't be waiting for
legal citizenships before moving on to us and elsewhere.
It's a shit thing to say but Uncontrolled Immigration will bring Economies down,look at Greece
Italy...it a huge burden on them......France and Germany would prob be leaving if they
had a Public Referendum such as ours...says it all..
We have to help Asylum seekers,nobody wants that more than me,but inviting everyone
in is madness....there's other ways..
Gotta say Mate
It does seem your coming at this from a dislike of the Tory Party,first and foremost,as
opposed to a for or against Brexit angle..