Neville Bartos wrote:mkhammer wrote:It can appear that way mate.....but in any negotiation,from buying/selling a car/house
to a piece of tat at a car boot sale..to Brexit......you go in "Hard"....if a guy want £1500 for
his motor you go I'll give you 11,"needs new tyres mate"you know he wont say yes,but that's your
starter..he goes 14.....so it goes....meet in the middle somewhere...
If the Brexit vote had been 70/30 leave......she would/could have gone in hard and pretty much
not lowered our demands to much.....but it was more or less 50/50....so she has to reflect that,
she has in someway appease the Remainers..and the Leavers...not easy.
All well and good sticking to your principles...I'm big on it,but politics is a different kettle of
fish......where what you personally want takes a back seat,to what the voter wants,that makes
a good politician....She's a good example of it.....Basically a Remainer....but doing what she
been asked to do,by the public...
Nah purely platonic Nev.......I'm more of a Jennifer Connelly/Kate Beckinsale....man... :i am genuinely amused:
It's not a negotiation though, mate.
She kicked off with the 'Brexit means Brexit' cobblers. Then, facing imminent failure, pulled a fast one at Chequers and tried to push through a soft Brexit.
Then that gets changed again to suit the Tory Brexiteers.
Now we've got Tory ministers resigning because it's not hard enough, and Tory MPs rebelling because they want frictionless trade with the EU.
And still May is trying to play both sides. There is zero chance she, or anyone else in her party, will come up with a deal that's going to be acceptable to both sides.
And I might not like Anna Soubry, but she was spot fucking on in her little speech yesterday.
Castigating rich, self serving Conservative MPs. It comes to something when Tory backbenchers are doing the opposition's job for them.
Nadine Dorries and Bridget Philipson for me. That Hollywood stuff is far too fanciful.
Much like the Public vote.....Parliament was/is split,everyone has their own idea of how
it(brexit) should be.....there's no right or wrong in it,just opinions,surmising what MAY...
or may not happen....
So to me its not a matter of playing both sides, but finding a compromise,for both sides,if they
don't want to compromise then F**k em.You shouldn't run of in a sulk cos you don't get your
own way......Euro wise I see things the same way as Boris...But Like it or not ,and it
pisses me off...we can't have it our way,not enough backing to go in "Hard",have to accept that...
Personally for me, I'm Hard Line, We're Leaving ...You Need us more than we need you attitude...
We have the upper hand.....and enter Negotiations with that in mind......but if 50% of my
Parliament were seeing it different,I would have to take that into account,and listen to them..
But I would be sitting back......let the Remainers/softies, cause a No Deal,which is what they're
doing....And go on from there....Don't believe the scaremongering....We Fail,Collapse, so does the EU,
Euro Bods know it as well..........shame some of our MPs don't....
This is what happens when you have a Party in opposition....thats main aim is to bring
a Government down......they concentrate on that,and bang on about it,instead of putting
it to one side ,and doing what is best for the country when an International problem comes
The Majority of Tories supporting May....in her Compromise,whether its what they want or not,
but the other side just see a chance to bring her down...and vote accordingly,not for
what they should be voting for...but that's the Labour Party for you.....