mkhammer wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:43 am
Neville Bartos wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:06 am
Mate, don't confuse not wanting May's deal or a no deal with remaining. The ERG voted against May's deal and I'm reasonably certain they're not remainers.
As for blaming Labour for everything? Hmmmm. Being fucking useless appears to have no favourites in the House of Commons these days.
Anyway May is, astonishingly, going for the hat-trick. And this time instead of bribery she's going with the threat of 'a long delay to Brexit'.
The woman hass properly lost the plot.
No I totally get that mate...nobody in there right mind WANTS a No deal situation,but unfortunately
we really are in a no deal is better area...and that must be there in the background.
So some are saying at least Mays deal has us part/most of the way there..it's just that F.in backstop.
It's so so tricky mate...I honestly not to sure now what i would be doing now if a Tory MP Leaver.
You wanna stand by yer guns...but we do have to compromise.
There was some really distraught Tories there last night...the whole thing is fucked up..
When that happens return to default and start again..but we cant do that....
We see it differently ..my admiration of May grows every day,you have have something to do
and you feel it's right...Never Ever give up till the very end.....I try and see the big picture,
not always successful granted..
but I just cant see what see is doing wrong,as she keeps
on saying ,shes trying to put a brexit in place that the public voted for, not what the bulk of
Parliament want....I believe shes trying...trying to do that.
Again I say the Public voted to leave...leave the Customs Union and all that goes with remaining
in that...Freedom of movement etc...thats what shes trying to get thru...that is what Labour,
and others are trying to prevent...I know which side I'm on....the Peoples...not Parliaments..
And I'm sorry mate but Labour have well and truly fucked me off over this...and I've never ever
been a Labour/Socialist disliker...
Fair play, mate, your reasoning is a mystery to me.
There's no good area for a no deal, unless your investment company has something to gain, or you want to import GM crops or chlorinated chicken.
In no way, shape, or form does it benefit your average working person.
And you talk about compromise, but May has presented parliament with the same deal twice, and will undoubtedly do so for a third time. So what's to admire about a lack of compromise there?
Do you think her deal is what the British public would choose? You might call two of the heaviest government defeats in history stubborn self belief, I'd call it pig headed bloody mindedness.
What I don't understand is you seem to not mind May's deal, which ties the UK to the EU indefinitely , and a no deal Brexit.
The most hard-line Brexiteers have twice foiled May's deal. It's not a case of 'oh, it's remainers voting against it'.
It's a horrible deal, it delivers none of the benefits of a soft Brexit, but somehow still ties us down to EU rules and regulations indefinitely.
No-one voted to leave the customs union or the EEA. The vote was to leave the EU. This is a falsehood that is trotted out time and again.
This was the Leave argument...
The stuff they want now was called Project Fear, it's right there for everyone to see.
Farage says it himself Norway get all the benefits of free trade, minus all the stuff the British people hate. His words.
Whether you choose to see it or not these people have moved the goalposts AFTER the vote, and despite the evidence right there, are pretending otherwise.
You're on your own side, mate. We all are.
And if it's not bias blaming Labour whilst admiring May... Like I said at the start, the reasoning behind that is a complete mystery.
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