Neville Bartos wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:30 pm
mkhammer wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:11 pm
Ask any Leave voter...hardline or not why they voted that way,and the fundamental part,revolves
around leaving or changing the present customs union....we remain in it the way it presently stands
we might as well fuck the whole thing off...and just let the anti democracy lot have their way and revoke
It's crucial that we leave it or revamp it giving us control over immigration,law and trade..
The things people voted leave for in the first place...this hard and "soft" brexit thing is a fallacy,
cos Hard means we leave...Soft means we don't...it's simple....
That is utter nonsense, mate. The Leave campaign went out of their way to distance themselves from a commitment to get rid of the customs union.
Do you have no memory of them all dismissing project fear?
Let's be clear, the customs union as an entity has fuck all to do with immigration, EU or otherwise. Fundamentally its a commitment to EU trade deals and standards of practice. Even Turkey is a member and they're a long way from EU membership, free movement, or complying with the ECHR.
If you think anyone's principal reason for voting Leave was the customs union you've been badly informed.
The reason people like Mogg, or Redwood want out is to line their own pockets, or at least have their pockets lined by someone who will benefit -- see: politicians with ties to US drug companies, health insurance, etc, etc.
The Present Customs Union and Single Market,maybe should use that as well they're linked
but would have to be negotiated separately..
My fault not being clear....
Involves...The Easy movement of Trade,Services,Capital and PEOPLE......it's all linked Nev.....
We can't remain in the "Present" CU.....and have control of the things people voted for..
There's different levels and regulations to them ....Turkeys is different to ours..as indeed
your saying....we need to renegotiate ours..
Again....People voted the way they did,because they thought we should be allowed to trade with who
we want....set our own laws....and they were worried about the present immigration set up...
In an ideal world we could remain in a version of present CU,and be allowed Free Trade...and
scrap the single market deal...which was what Leavers were hoping to blag.....that aint happening
and I do get the EUs reluctance on that....means we get our cake and eat it..
Can pretty much assure you mate....Financially.. Mogg and the wealthy guys you don't like,will
make money whatever the outcome....and as we speak are preparing deals,for whichever way
it all goes....
And will make dosh with a strong pound, a weak pound....a booming economy...a falling one
it makes no difference....it's way to easy to shift Finances around these days....and you are
right one of the reasons they want out,to make it even easier....suits them,and suits the UK...