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Re: Ashes..

Post by Neville Bartos » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:29 pm

The usual suspects making a few runs and failures everywhere else.
Buttler finally making a decent score after a summer of failure, no doubt it will be used as an excuse to give him another half dozen chances.
And is it just me, or should Jack Leach be batting at number 4?
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Re: Ashes..

Post by palerider » Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:13 am

Neville Bartos wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:29 pm
The usual suspects making a few runs and failures everywhere else.
Buttler finally making a decent score after a summer of failure, no doubt it will be used as an excuse to give him another half dozen chances.
And is it just me, or should Jack Leach be batting at number 4?
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Only 4 ? He should fucking open !

The problem is, who else is there other than those picked ?

I disagree about Buttler. He has talent and a much better technique than Bairstow. I'm not saying that Bairstow should be ditched but Mark Butcher made a good point yesterday. They should have designated places. If we drop someone, bring in a replacement, not shuffle things around.

The bloke with the best technique of the lot though is Ben Stokes. He's the one player we have who can play one-day and test roles seamlessly. And he should bat at 3. Persevere with that and it will bear fruit. Jacques Kallis had the all rounder position with SA for years at 3. Stokes could do the same. Leaving Joe Root playing in his preferred position at 4.

It still leaves us needing an opener. I don't watch county cricket but I'm told that Zak Crawley at Kent is one to watch. If so, pick him and give him a decent run in the side. Denly is not the answer.

And I read this yesterday.

Back in 2007, a 17 year-old Aussie signed for a village cricket team in Cheshire; Grapenhall CC.

He arrived on a Tuesday but by the Friday, before a training session had even been held, he was already on his way home. The teenage cricketer was so appalled by the boorish, drunken antics of his would-be team-mates in their local, the Mulberry Tree, that he left.

As the son of a UK passport holder, if things had worked out, he could have gone on to play for England.

As it was, Steve Smith opted for Australia.




A salient tale.

But it would never have changed the fact that he was, and is, a cunt.
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Re: Ashes..

Post by OZHAMMER » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:04 am

palerider wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:13 am
Neville Bartos wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:29 pm
The usual suspects making a few runs and failures everywhere else.
Buttler finally making a decent score after a summer of failure, no doubt it will be used as an excuse to give him another half dozen chances.
And is it just me, or should Jack Leach be batting at number 4?
:lol:

Only 4 ? He should fucking open !

The problem is, who else is there other than those picked ?

I disagree about Buttler. He has talent and a much better technique than Bairstow. I'm not saying that Bairstow should be ditched but Mark Butcher made a good point yesterday. They should have designated places. If we drop someone, bring in a replacement, not shuffle things around.

The bloke with the best technique of the lot though is Ben Stokes. He's the one player we have who can play one-day and test roles seamlessly. And he should bat at 3. Persevere with that and it will bear fruit. Jacques Kallis had the all rounder position with SA for years at 3. Stokes could do the same. Leaving Joe Root playing in his preferred position at 4.

It still leaves us needing an opener. I don't watch county cricket but I'm told that Zak Crawley at Kent is one to watch. If so, pick him and give him a decent run in the side. Denly is not the answer.

And I read this yesterday.

Back in 2007, a 17 year-old Aussie signed for a village cricket team in Cheshire; Grapenhall CC.

He arrived on a Tuesday but by the Friday, before a training session had even been held, he was already on his way home. The teenage cricketer was so appalled by the boorish, drunken antics of his would-be team-mates in their local, the Mulberry Tree, that he left.

As the son of a UK passport holder, if things had worked out, he could have gone on to play for England.

As it was, Steve Smith opted for Australia.




A salient tale.

But it would never have changed the fact that he was, and is, a cunt.
Relax, and have a mentos...
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Re: Ashes..

Post by Neville Bartos » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:50 am

palerider wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:13 am
Neville Bartos wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:29 pm
The usual suspects making a few runs and failures everywhere else.
Buttler finally making a decent score after a summer of failure, no doubt it will be used as an excuse to give him another half dozen chances.
And is it just me, or should Jack Leach be batting at number 4?
:lol:

Only 4 ? He should fucking open !

The problem is, who else is there other than those picked ?

I disagree about Buttler. He has talent and a much better technique than Bairstow. I'm not saying that Bairstow should be ditched but Mark Butcher made a good point yesterday. They should have designated places. If we drop someone, bring in a replacement, not shuffle things around.

The bloke with the best technique of the lot though is Ben Stokes. He's the one player we have who can play one-day and test roles seamlessly. And he should bat at 3. Persevere with that and it will bear fruit. Jacques Kallis had the all rounder position with SA for years at 3. Stokes could do the same. Leaving Joe Root playing in his preferred position at 4.

It still leaves us needing an opener. I don't watch county cricket but I'm told that Zak Crawley at Kent is one to watch. If so, pick him and give him a decent run in the side. Denly is not the answer.

And I read this yesterday.

Back in 2007, a 17 year-old Aussie signed for a village cricket team in Cheshire; Grapenhall CC.

He arrived on a Tuesday but by the Friday, before a training session had even been held, he was already on his way home. The teenage cricketer was so appalled by the boorish, drunken antics of his would-be team-mates in their local, the Mulberry Tree, that he left.

As the son of a UK passport holder, if things had worked out, he could have gone on to play for England.

As it was, Steve Smith opted for Australia.




A salient tale.

But it would never have changed the fact that he was, and is, a cunt.
Talent accounts for about 10% of what it takes to succeed at test cricket.
Graeme Hick, all the talent in the world, batted like a half decent tailender.
Alastair Cook, with his 3 shots, scored 12000 runs at 45.
Look at Stokes, he showed he could bat for time, showed he could only play the balls he needed to. I'd argue he should play that way every innings, but he doesn't, he still gets out cheaply and often playing ODI shots.

Ideally for your top 3 you want players who block and leave most of the time. Players who can see off the new ball and knacker the big fast bowlers. That's when your shot makers down the order can come in and make hay. Englands problem is that the number 5 and 6 are coming in before the shine's even been knocked off the ball.
None of Cook, Strauss and Trott were exactly extravagant shot makers, Cook and Trott especially could dig in. They gave their shotmakers a platform to build on. Some poor old quick toils away until tea, finally gets rid of Cook, and in strolls Pietersen to cane him to all corners for the last 2 and a half hours.

To think we've gone from that lineup to the current shambles in a decade. ODI and Twenty/20 specialists shouldn't be anywhere near that top 3. The selectors should be looking for temperament not extravagant talent.
Is Nick Compton still playing? He might have only averaged 28ish, but he used to spend forever getting there. :D
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Re: Ashes..

Post by Neville Bartos » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:19 am

Here's a good stat.
Jack Leach's average is 21 but England now average 58 runs per dismissal while he is at the crease.

That means with 11 Jack Leachs in the side England would average 580 per innings.

Buttler, somewhat predictably, gone now. Maybe it should've been Leach farming the strike rather than Buttler. He was actually out scoring him.
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Re: Ashes..

Post by jameskel » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:32 pm

Good, Smith in nice and early. we get to watch the cheating cunt bat for 2 days now
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Re: Ashes..

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Re: Ashes..

Post by ToneLoc » Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:33 pm

There's some shockers in here :lol:
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Re: Ashes..

Post by BillyDWhizz » Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:20 pm

So he's human after all. Out for 23. Not sure why it's taken England all summer to employ a leg slip against him but 2021 should be fun. I smell a bodyline type series. :D
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Re: Ashes..

Post by terrya1965 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:35 pm

2-2,but I do think the Aussies were the better team overall.

Steve Smith was outstanding for them,bit I think Anderson could have made the difference if he was fit.

Roll on the next one..
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