Newmarket wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:50 pm
Do you lot not read the posts in this thread ?
Or from any of the HU or WHUISA threads ?
I’m really not surprised that these fans groups never seem to get anywhere ....
Mein Fuhrer , can’t you sort out a head shaking emoji of some description ???
Maybe fan groups don't get anywhere because the majority of fans just want to watch the game and couldn't really give one about whether the walk to the stadium is festooned with West Ham paraphanalia or not. Perhaps the majority haven't been harassed by stewards and have never had their seat changed without consultation.
A beer or two before the game, hopefully a decent 90 minutes, and a safe journey home is all the vast majority want imo.
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Newmarket wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:50 pm
Do you lot not read the posts in this thread ?
Or from any of the HU or WHUISA threads ?
I’m really not surprised that these fans groups never seem to get anywhere ....
Mein Fuhrer , can’t you sort out a head shaking emoji of some description ???
Maybe fan groups don't get anywhere because the majority of fans just want to watch the game and couldn't really give one about whether the walk to the stadium is festooned with West Ham paraphanalia or not. Perhaps the majority haven't been harassed by stewards and have never had their seat changed without consultation.
A beer or two before the game, hopefully a decent 90 minutes, and a safe journey home is all the vast majority want imo.
Indeed, but I wouldn’t mind doing that a cheaper.
It’s not what you do it is the way that you do it.
Newmarket wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:50 pm
Do you lot not read the posts in this thread ?
Or from any of the HU or WHUISA threads ?
I’m really not surprised that these fans groups never seem to get anywhere ....
Mein Fuhrer , can’t you sort out a head shaking emoji of some description ???
Yes I do, hence why I have asked the question I did.
I also don't see why HU have refused to put anyone forward to represent them on the OSB. If they did and they were refused I could understand a little bit more the view that the OSB is not truly representative.
That's not denying their intentions are anything but good, but sometime you have to play the game
Stuff talking to the board, they don't listen anyway. I don't feel that the likes of SW represent me on any level, other than we're both West Ham supporters.
Keep a close eye on what the board are doing and if they keep their word. If they don't, 'do a Burnley'. It's what they fear the most.
If I am part of a group that has 100,000 members and I am "selected" to go on the OSB I will have one voice and one vote. This would be equal to another group representing 200 hammers in a special interest group who also have one voice and one vote.
This does not represent the interests of all fans equally, it weights opinion towards smaller fan groups who are divided in their opinions.
Means no one group has any real power and they all argue amongst themselves about who is real
Newmarket wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:50 pm
Do you lot not read the posts in this thread ?
Or from any of the HU or WHUISA threads ?
I’m really not surprised that these fans groups never seem to get anywhere ....
Mein Fuhrer , can’t you sort out a head shaking emoji of some description ???
Maybe fan groups don't get anywhere because the majority of fans just want to watch the game and couldn't really give one about whether the walk to the stadium is festooned with West Ham paraphanalia or not. Perhaps the majority haven't been harassed by stewards and have never had their seat changed without consultation.
A beer or two before the game, hopefully a decent 90 minutes, and a safe journey home is all the vast majority want imo.
I think what it generally boils down to is that these type of movements tend to have more impact when being reactive and not proactive.
The thousands that assembled behind the RHWFAG group, the "non" march and the subsequent angry backlash we saw at the Burnley game were a reaction to a prolonged period of negativity and difficult times.
As you said Whisk, certain things have improved of late and this appears to have taken the "lid off of the pressure cooker" for those supporters that were simmering somewhat.
What these movements are asking for is for people to be "proactive". But history seems to demonstrate that, as a group of supporters, when it comes to tackling our owners we're not the most proactive bunch out there.
Fancy calling your only son "Barnestoneworth"
He's got another name....
Yeah....."United"
Maybe fan groups don't get anywhere because the majority of fans just want to watch the game and couldn't really give one about whether the walk to the stadium is festooned with West Ham paraphanalia or not. Perhaps the majority haven't been harassed by stewards and have never had their seat changed without consultation.
A beer or two before the game, hopefully a decent 90 minutes, and a safe journey home is all the vast majority want imo.
I think what it generally boils down to is that these type of movements tend to have more impact when being reactive and not proactive.
The thousands that assembled behind the RHWFAG group, the "non" march and the subsequent angry backlash we saw at the Burnley game were a reaction to a prolonged period of negativity and difficult times.
As you said Whisk, certain things have improved of late and this appears to have taken the "lid off of the pressure cooker" for those supporters that were simmering somewhat.
What these movements are asking for is for people to be "proactive". But history seems to demonstrate that, as a group of supporters, when it comes to tackling our owners we're not the most proactive bunch out there.
As you have carefully dissected,the impasse is the owners and the supporters. What you are suggesting is, if the owners were different people and if the supporters were different people,then positive agreement on shared values,might be divided equally,so both would align.
However recognition of the shared differences (as they are) is a useful basis of at least negotiating a trade.
It's very hard work this but I admire people that give it a go. Tells you a lot about the club that they want all at arms length except Claret and Hugh. You can expect nothing but a 'non-opinion, board driven' set of comments from C+H. Meaningless. Like a communist news agency...
As touted, only direct action really works/makes the club take note.
Brown Out tells us this as did the build up to the aborted RWHFG aborted action.
I remember how few were prepared to get involed and act with Brown Out and that was a long time ago.
Good luck in 2019 lads - you'll more than have your work cut out.
Fuck Off Sully, Brady, Moyes. Killing this club by death from a thousand cunts.
Let’s face it the OSB are a hand picked spineless bunch that are music to the ears of the dildos.
No way would they upset the apple cart listening to fans that have an actual point.
Direct action is the only thing that would shake them but no one seems to be fucking arsed anymore.
