Brookbonds73 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:10 am
What amazes me is people who've suddenly had a light bulb moment and believe something's a bit fishy.
Ffs it's been going on for years. The only time they couldn't bend/break/snap the rules was with Leicester, but by Christ they tried. They can't have unfashionable teams ruining the status quo, it wouldn't go down well in downtown Beijing, where young kimmyfung is patiently waiting to buy his new Liverpool/Man Utd shirt. Jesus, wake up ffs.
Of course,but not like today BB,where the stakes are so much financially higher.
I don't believe that Manchester United or Liverpool would have won half their trophies ,if every decision was corrected.
Definitely.
Some of their results show beating sides by big scorelines, but if you go there with a gameplan and they get a favourable decision early on, then that goes out the window, you try and get back in to the game, leave yourself wide open and voila! Before you know it you've lost 4 or 5 nil all because of that first dodgy decision. It's happened countless times over the years.
A Liverpool or Man Utd player could stab someone in the box and they'd get away with it, probably get a free kick for it, or the player would get sent off for diving
Well if people think it's corrupt then I think the rest of us are entitled to question their sanity in continuing to pay good money to watch the bloody thing. After all, if the results are known beforehand what's the point ?
Mantra of losers I'm afraid. Not our fault guv, we wuz robbed.
Tbf Whiskyman,you do have a good point there.We wouldn't watch it,if it totally corrupt,obviously not.
But there is pockets of corruption in the game and it's all down to money.
Qatari was given the World Cup.How comes Australia didn't get it?Why do we have to interupt our entire Football programme for it?.That's a joke!Tbh,I'm still fuming about it,all these years later.
I remember a quote from somebody at the FA back in 2016.Man United winning the PL or one of the major honors in financial terms is the best thing for the competition.When they are not in a Final or competing for top spot,we don't make finacially,what we could make.
But the award of the WC to Qatar has nothing to do with dodgy refereeing decisions against West Ham has it ? Of course the fucking thing shouldn't be played in the middle of a poxy desert slap bang in the middle of the football season. But why didn't all the major players, including our own FA, jump in to give support to the German FA bloke who suggested at the time of the award that the major footballing countries shouldn't enter the WC this time around ?
As for the Man United winning = more money I have no idea if it means more money for the F A, although for the life of me I don't know why it would. But what is an absolute fact is that Sky's viewing figures in this country, don't know about the rest of the world, were actually HIGHER the season Leicester won the league.
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Brookbonds73 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:01 pm
Definitely.
Some of their results show beating sides by big scorelines, but if you go there with a gameplan and they get a favourable decision early on, then that goes out the window, you try and get back in to the game, leave yourself wide open and voila! Before you know it you've lost 4 or 5 nil all because of that first dodgy decision. It's happened countless times over the years.
A Liverpool or Man Utd player could stab someone in the box and they'd get away with it, probably get a free kick for it, or the player would get sent off for diving
Years ago when Man United were having yet another of their transition seasons under Fergie, Richard Scudamore said in an interview that the Premier League brand was less valuable when Man United were not challenging for the title.
The Premier League is a product aimed at the Far and Middle East and USA. The majority of the money now comes from there as the UK and Europe are saturated markets. Thats why there are so many stories regarding Ronaldo and Pogba and why there are some decisions that look subtly wrong. As fans we would love 3 or 4 unfancied teams to finish in the Top 4 but it would be a disaster for the PL and their Man United/Liverpool shirt buying demographic in Asia. Why do you think Man United bought Ronaldo (straight after Sancho), Pogba and Fernandes and continue to struggle to play them but never sell any of them. The made up Pogba live/stay saga is a marketeers dream.
They didnt really care when fans were not allowed in during the pandemic once they piped in the fake cheering to SKY but had they lost the ability to broadcast it would have been a disaster for them.
And people still think that they dont favour the big clubs !! Its all about money and it sticks in their throats when the Sky 6 struggle. He was genuinely gutted that Man United was costing them audience figures yet it made it all the more competitive over here so it shows we dont really count.
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Brookbonds73 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:01 pm
Definitely.
Some of their results show beating sides by big scorelines, but if you go there with a gameplan and they get a favourable decision early on, then that goes out the window, you try and get back in to the game, leave yourself wide open and voila! Before you know it you've lost 4 or 5 nil all because of that first dodgy decision. It's happened countless times over the years.
A Liverpool or Man Utd player could stab someone in the box and they'd get away with it, probably get a free kick for it, or the player would get sent off for diving
Years ago when Man United were having yet another of their transition seasons under Fergie, Richard Scudamore said in an interview that the Premier League brand was less valuable when Man United were not challenging for the title.
The Premier League is a product aimed at the Far and Middle East and USA. The majority of the money now comes from there as the UK and Europe are saturated markets. Thats why there are so many stories regarding Ronaldo and Pogba and why there are some decisions that look subtly wrong. As fans we would love 3 or 4 unfancied teams to finish in the Top 4 but it would be a disaster for the PL and their Man United/Liverpool shirt buying demographic in Asia. Why do you think Man United bought Ronaldo (straight after Sancho), Pogba and Fernandes and continue to struggle to play them but never sell any of them. The made up Pogba live/stay saga is a marketeers dream.
They didnt really care when fans were not allowed in during the pandemic once they piped in the fake cheering to SKY but had they lost the ability to broadcast it would have been a disaster for them.
And people still think that they dont favour the big clubs !! Its all about money and it sticks in their throats when the Sky 6 struggle. He was genuinely gutted that Man United was costing them audience figures yet it made it all the more competitive over here so it shows we dont really count.
He made that quote when David Moyes was managing Man U. Basically blaming Moyes for damaging the Prem brand by leveling down Man U from
1st to 7th. I kinew he was absolute crap - well we all did - but I didn't realise he was blamed for ruining the English footballing product worldwide at the time.
Years ago when Man United were having yet another of their transition seasons under Fergie, Richard Scudamore said in an interview that the Premier League brand was less valuable when Man United were not challenging for the title.
The Premier League is a product aimed at the Far and Middle East and USA. The majority of the money now comes from there as the UK and Europe are saturated markets. Thats why there are so many stories regarding Ronaldo and Pogba and why there are some decisions that look subtly wrong. As fans we would love 3 or 4 unfancied teams to finish in the Top 4 but it would be a disaster for the PL and their Man United/Liverpool shirt buying demographic in Asia. Why do you think Man United bought Ronaldo (straight after Sancho), Pogba and Fernandes and continue to struggle to play them but never sell any of them. The made up Pogba live/stay saga is a marketeers dream.
They didnt really care when fans were not allowed in during the pandemic once they piped in the fake cheering to SKY but had they lost the ability to broadcast it would have been a disaster for them.
And people still think that they dont favour the big clubs !! Its all about money and it sticks in their throats when the Sky 6 struggle. He was genuinely gutted that Man United was costing them audience figures yet it made it all the more competitive over here so it shows we dont really count.
He made that quote when David Moyes was managing Man U. Basically blaming Moyes for damaging the Prem brand by leveling down Man U from
1st to 7th. I kinew he was absolute crap - well we all did - but I didn't realise he was blamed for ruining the English footballing product worldwide at the time.
Strong stuff...and even funnier now
Did no worse than any of the other managers given what he had to work with there
He made that quote when David Moyes was managing Man U. Basically blaming Moyes for damaging the Prem brand by leveling down Man U from
1st to 7th. I kinew he was absolute crap - well we all did - but I didn't realise he was blamed for ruining the English footballing product worldwide at the time.
Strong stuff...and even funnier now
Did no worse than any of the other managers given what he had to work with there
Not too sure about that. Man United had won the league the previous season so there couldn’t have been too much wrong with the squad.
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Not too sure about that. Man United had won the league the previous season so there couldn’t have been too much wrong with the squad.
They won the league by 11 points and then one season later finished 7th.
DM was give a 5 year contract but only lasted 1 season.
True. vanGaal and Mourinho both won trophies while in charge but they were given more time than Moyes who wasn't even allowed to see the season out. He may have won trophies had he been given more time but we will never know.
He's acknowledged he tried to change things too quickly and, let's face it, it wasn't the usual scenario when there is a change of manager. Usually the new man inherits a losing team which he has to rejuvenate.
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