Hartlepool By Election

[Whiskyman]

So MK.. Has 2 Constituency seats both Tory....

Tories win The Council election with 45% of vote and 24 wards against 19 Lab and 13 Libs..
Libs approach Tories if you want us on board, we want this we want that etc.....Tories go ..Fuck off you idiots....
So they sneak of tail between their legs and hook up with Labour.....

That's how your local councils work....

Doesn't it also show just how stupid the "first past the post" election system is.? Even when Blair won an almost 200 seat majority there were more people nationwide who DIDN'T vote Labour than who did. And on another occasion something like 60 SNP MPs were sent to Westminster even though the party only got the same number of votes nationally as UKIP, who I don't think won a single seat.

Fucking absurd is it not. Proper PR, such as they have in Germany, ensures you get decent and sustainable co operation not the kind of opportunism you've highlighted that happens not just in Milton Keynes but all over the UK.

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I’ve thought long and hard since last night after reading your question and started making a list believe it or not.

But there’s nothing I can say without making myself sound like a old Skool whingy whining Nazi tbh with you but if you take a gander at most of the serious threads on the other forum you’ll get some idea .

I’ll also throw in a few words/phrases to give you a clue too.

Stephen Lawrence Day
Lee Rigby statue

Blind eye turned to Muslim child rape gangs

George Floyd

The welcome mat at Dover

The denial of the GOOD things the British Empire did .

Woke

British Politicians

Being told what to think and say .

One rule for the indigenous British people
No rules for the rest of the population.

And that’s just for starters

Really truly understandable points mate..fully on board...Politicians tho we have good well meaning ones on all sides...
Problem is they are limited in what they can say and do because of some of the points you mention...
Watched Blair on TV yesterday,have not a lot of time for the bloke...but first Politician I've heard say....I can't say what I
want because it will be interpreted the wrong way..you guys the media and others will spin it to suit....
anyway you guys..Press/Media are more concerned with my haircut than what I'm saying....

Anyone that is perceived to be on the Right of politics...has to keep mouths firmly shut...Left can speak out,cos they
are perceived to represent the Woke Bods you refer to, who are very much in the minority...but the public are getting it,
hence the move away from socialism in our voting, in a word people don't like whats going on,and not just the economy,
jobs,pay...etc. the Social aspect side as well..there's hope.
But it's hard for a government any government to control social thinking,thats down to the public themselves.

Stuff you mention is worldwide social problems and changes we are going thru,not just a UK Problem...
We Are clinging on to free speech as well as anywhere..

Thing is 95% maybe more of us in the UK across all colours religions,creeds,whatever...are decent honest and fair minded...
can't let the tiny percentage of arseholes dictate and win..they don't and wont.

But fuckin frustrating times ..no doubt..

And now they are making the term Anglo-Saxon racist : http://hammerschat.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 57#p277057