Your medical data

[BillyDWhizz]

Is up for sale in England.

https://www.ft.com/content/9fee812f-697 ... b25d3dd748

All of your past, present and future medical data is going to be made available for sale to commercial 3rd parties by those lovely people in the Government.

I'm not scaremongering or posting conspiracy theories here, since this IS happening. This devious bit of legislation was wheeled out very quietly by everyone's favourite straight shooter, Nick Hancock back in April although they've actually been surreptitiously working on it for the past 3 years.

I have to wonder who will benefit financially from such a scheme, although I suspect it would take a forensic audit to answer that.

Not only is this a massive intrusion in to your private and confidential data, they are being deliberately opaque as to who exactly the data will be sold to. You have to guess though, it's going to be organisations who you don't necessarily want having access to your darkest medical secrets.

Hypothetically of course, if your insurance or mortgage providers can all of a sudden see every tiny bit of your medical history, a long forgotten childhood illness or accident could give them a reason to "adjust" your policies... in their favour of course. That's just one scenario, I can think of others that could be even more insidious but you lot need to read up on this and come to your own conclusions.

You can opt out if you like but you have to take a fully filled in form to your local GP in person before 23rd June. Good luck with that...

I can see the headlines in about 6 months time now...

"Massive NHS hack... tens of millions of people in England have their confidential medical records hacked. Likely sold to Indian call centres, spam calls for fake viagra up three million percent..."

Since I've seen hospitals who are still using windows fucking XP I'd say a hack is imminent rather than just possible!

Luckily here in Wales we have no such legislation and now that the cat's fully out of the bag, public awareness will surely prevent them from trying to implement such measures. Lads, do yourselves a favour, have a butchers at this legislation, take it seriously and get you and your family the fuck out of it.

[mkhammer]

Always wary when the words Medical and Commercial come together...everything has a commercial aspect..problem
starts when a "Private Company"is answerable to shareholders etc..should be kept in house,if profits are made all well
and good ,but lets keep it in the system that created the profit and use it for re-investment,but think maybe that ship has
sailed...But it should be controlled more...thats doable.
But a Catch 22 because not using Private money to back up the NHS a No Brainer,gets complicated.

Academically and Data wise its also a No Brainer...to link up up all the different systems into one Data base accessible by
those that are treating you...stuff I've seen is a complete and utter shambles...Doctors surgeries,Hospitals,Carers,
Chemists, it goes on.. all have different Data Systems they access when treating you,causes huge problems and workloads.

Legally can see problems with giving private info to 3rd parties..Commercial 3rd parties that is...A doctor is not allowed
to give certain info to the old bill about you,so don't see how they can by pass that...and let the Pharma industry or whoever
have access to it.
Seems like would maybe have to be an act of Paliament...surprised if it could be snuck in thru the back door,but spose
depends on what it actual entails...

Would not be at all happy if something went thru on the lines of that report.

[Newmarket]

Always wary when the words Medical and Commercial come together...everything has a commercial aspect..problem
starts when a "Private Company"is answerable to shareholders etc..should be kept in house,if profits are made all well
and good ,but lets keep it in the system that created the profit and use it for re-investment,but think maybe that ship has
sailed...But it should be controlled more...thats doable.
But a Catch 22 because not using Private money to back up the NHS a No Brainer,gets complicated.

Academically and Data wise its also a No Brainer...to link up up all the different systems into one Data base accessible by
those that are treating you...stuff I've seen is a complete and utter shambles...Doctors surgeries,Hospitals,Carers,
Chemists, it goes on.. all have different Data Systems they access when treating you,causes huge problems and workloads.

Legally can see problems with giving private info to 3rd parties..Commercial 3rd parties that is...A doctor is not allowed
to give certain info to the old bill about you,so don't see how they can by pass that...and let the Pharma industry or whoever
have access to it.
Seems like would maybe have to be an act of Paliament...surprised if it could be snuck in thru the back door,but spose
depends on what it actual entails...

Would not be at all happy if something went thru on the lines of that report.

So is this a good thing or a bad thing ?

I’ve already made up my mind but This thicko can’t even
Follow what you’ve just written, just seems like riddles to me mate.

[BillyDWhizz]

It's a bad thing. A very bad thing.

[Newmarket]

It's a bad thing. A very bad thing.

Yeah I’d already made my mind up about that Bill , not only from your OP but from the article included.

MK’s contribution has confused me as he seems to disagree . Doesn’t he ? I don’t know so I’d like him to explain in language that this thicko can comprehend

[palerider]

I've downloaded the form and will drop it off with my GP on Monday.

[Ironworksfc]

Always wary when the words Medical and Commercial come together...everything has a commercial aspect..problem
starts when a "Private Company"is answerable to shareholders etc..should be kept in house,if profits are made all well
and good ,but lets keep it in the system that created the profit and use it for re-investment,but think maybe that ship has
sailed...But it should be controlled more...thats doable.
But a Catch 22 because not using Private money to back up the NHS a No Brainer,gets complicated.

Academically and Data wise its also a No Brainer...to link up up all the different systems into one Data base accessible by
those that are treating you...stuff I've seen is a complete and utter shambles...Doctors surgeries,Hospitals,Carers,
Chemists, it goes on.. all have different Data Systems they access when treating you,causes huge problems and workloads.

Legally can see problems with giving private info to 3rd parties..Commercial 3rd parties that is...A doctor is not allowed
to give certain info to the old bill about you,so don't see how they can by pass that...and let the Pharma industry or whoever
have access to it.
Seems like would maybe have to be an act of Paliament...surprised if it could be snuck in thru the back door,but spose
depends on what it actual entails...

Would not be at all happy if something went thru on the lines of that report.

WTF are you on about?

[JayK]

It's a bad thing. A very bad thing.

Yeah I’d already made my mind up about that Bill , not only from your OP but from the article included.

MK’s contribution has confused me as he seems to disagree . Doesn’t he ? I don’t know so I’d like him to explain in language that this thicko can comprehend

Same

[Ironworksfc]

https://www.nhs.uk/your-nhs-data-matter ... ur-choice/

Opt out here

[mkhammer]

Always wary when the words Medical and Commercial come together...everything has a commercial aspect..problem
starts when a "Private Company"is answerable to shareholders etc..should be kept in house,if profits are made all well
and good ,but lets keep it in the system that created the profit and use it for re-investment,but think maybe that ship has
sailed...But it should be controlled more...thats doable.
But a Catch 22 because not using Private money to back up the NHS a No Brainer,gets complicated.

Academically and Data wise its also a No Brainer...to link up up all the different systems into one Data base accessible by
those that are treating you...stuff I've seen is a complete and utter shambles...Doctors surgeries,Hospitals,Carers,
Chemists, it goes on.. all have different Data Systems they access when treating you,causes huge problems and workloads.

Legally can see problems with giving private info to 3rd parties..Commercial 3rd parties that is...A doctor is not allowed
to give certain info to the old bill about you,so don't see how they can by pass that...and let the Pharma industry or whoever
have access to it.
Seems like would maybe have to be an act of Paliament...surprised if it could be snuck in thru the back door,but spose
depends on what it actual entails...

Would not be at all happy if something went thru on the lines of that report.

So is this a good thing or a bad thing ?

I’ve already made up my mind but This thicko can’t even
Follow what you’ve just written, just seems like riddles to me mate.

What my take is mate is....
Think the present Medical/Treatment system is a mess,and believe there should be one Data System so that everyone
that is treating you has the same info,and all work together,at moment that doesn't happen...However I don't want
access to this info available to the Commercial Private sector,so we get personally targeted via E-mails,Post,texts etc on
treatments.
It also seems questionable in it's legality.

Lots of ideas have good points and bad points that need thrashing out...this is one of them.

And I'm not against using Private money in that NHS System...But not this way.

But I'm a gullible fuck so what do I know......