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COVID deaths stats vs other common death stats

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:54 am
by ToneLoc
Just started a petition for better, more balanced data so people can think with a better sense of perspective…..

https://www.change.org/p/uk-parliament- ... c5bdcbe72e

Re: COVID deaths stats vs other common death stats

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:27 am
by JayK
Signed 👍🏽

Re: COVID deaths stats vs other common death stats

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:45 am
by Ironworksfc
Also signed

Re: COVID deaths stats vs other common death stats

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:58 am
by Newmarket
Yep me too Tony

Re: COVID deaths stats vs other common death stats

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:25 pm
by Whiskyman
ToneLoc wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:54 am Just started a petition for better, more balanced data so people can think with a better sense of perspective…..

https://www.change.org/p/uk-parliament- ... c5bdcbe72e
You're taking a big risk Tone. You'll have the Project Fear Police on your case. Not to mention our resident prophet of doom. You should know by now the idea of people actually thinking for themselves is alien to the whole concept of Project Fear.

Re: COVID deaths stats vs other common death stats

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:05 pm
by BlackDiamond
ToneLoc wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:54 am Just started a petition for better, more balanced data so people can think with a better sense of perspective…..

https://www.change.org/p/uk-parliament- ... c5bdcbe72e
Good idea be interesting to see what they come up with.

In the meantime, if we take the published national statistics for deaths for the last five years and establish our baseline and then compare
last years 2020 number then the difference or increase is about 15%.

Which equates approximately to 70,000 deaths using a bit of rounding down.

Pretty sure 15% is the number, but if someone wanted to spend longer than 15 mins on the analysis and claimed 16% then I wouldn't argue. I prefer to err on the side of caution.

Re: COVID deaths stats vs other common death stats

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:17 pm
by Ironworksfc
BlackDiamond wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:05 pm
ToneLoc wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:54 am Just started a petition for better, more balanced data so people can think with a better sense of perspective…..

https://www.change.org/p/uk-parliament- ... c5bdcbe72e
Good idea be interesting to see what they come up with.

In the meantime, if we take the published national statistics for deaths for the last five years and establish our baseline and then compare
last years 2020 number then the difference or increase is about 15%.

Which equates approximately to 70,000 deaths using a bit of rounding down.

Pretty sure 15% is the number, but if someone wanted to spend longer than 15 mins on the analysis and claimed 16% then I wouldn't argue. I prefer to err on the side of caution.
Apply population growth to the calculations and then see what you come up with

Re: COVID deaths stats vs other common death stats

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:21 pm
by BlackDiamond
Ironworksfc wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:17 pm
BlackDiamond wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:05 pm
Good idea be interesting to see what they come up with.

In the meantime, if we take the published national statistics for deaths for the last five years and establish our baseline and then compare
last years 2020 number then the difference or increase is about 15%.

Which equates approximately to 70,000 deaths using a bit of rounding down.

Pretty sure 15% is the number, but if someone wanted to spend longer than 15 mins on the analysis and claimed 16% then I wouldn't argue. I prefer to err on the side of caution.
Apply population growth to the calculations and then see what you come up with
That won't have much influence on a percentage that doesn't include a decimal point..

Re: COVID deaths stats vs other common death stats

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:30 pm
by Ironworksfc
BlackDiamond wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:21 pm
Ironworksfc wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:17 pm

Apply population growth to the calculations and then see what you come up with
That won't have much influence on a percentage that doesn't include a decimal point..
Oh yes it does

Last year's excess death rate, when applied against population size was marginally worse than previous years

Re: COVID deaths stats vs other common death stats

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:38 pm
by Ironworksfc