I thought Soucek and Coufal were two of our better players behind Dawson,Rice and Fabs.Coufal shouldn't have even got ANY yellow card tonight..The Arsenal players got him his first booking and the ref sent him off for a perfect tackle.
VAR seems to be all about not undermining the Referee.
I thought Soucek and Coufal were two of our better players behind Dawson,Rice and Fabs.Coufal shouldn't have even got ANY yellow card tonight..The Arsenal players got him his first booking and the ref sent him off for a perfect tackle.
VAR seems to be all about not undermining the Referee.
Should be shot!
Moyes disagrees with you my good man.
Well,his entitled to his opinion,but I think his wrong.
Dermot doesn't. I dont think it was a pen so I agree with Gallagher but I think Moyes is right in saying it all could have been avoided if Coufal made better contact on it.
This is why VAR won't work. We've made it so complicated it is unworkable and not fit for purpose. The reason to give the pen by VAR was because they ASSUMED that it was bad since the ref gave the red in the first place. In other words, they just went with the refs opinion and that influenced their decision. What is the point then ?
DERMOT SAYS: "For his first yellow card, it's a flailing arm from Coufal into Kieran Tierney. That's all it is but it's a yellow card. That is not a red card as he doesn't use his arm as a weapon. He doesn't throw it back. So I think Anthony Taylor makes the right decision.
"For the second yellow card and therefore a red, it's a massive controversial decision. It's a very debateable decision and for me I feel he's very, very unlucky to be giving the penalty away. What Anthony Taylor sees on the field, he sees Coufal get the top of the ball and the player then goes through and catches Lacazette on the shin.
"That's what he sees and that's what he makes his judgment on. I don't think he sees that a) he gets the ball and b) he gets the ball a second time with his trailing leg, which is why the ball goes to the left. The referee thought this through and ran it through his mind.
"The VAR then looks at it [Peter Bankes], and he thinks that because Anthony Taylor has given the penalty, he also believes he's got the top of the ball and then caught Lacazette. The VAR can't then intervene and can't turn it down.
"For me, it's not a second yellow and therefore it's not a red card. The reason I say that is because I've got the luxury of looking at the pictures. I thought the penalty was so dubious myself, that's why I think it's not a red card. The vagueness of the system is that once you've awarded the penalty, he's got the perception that it's a reckless challenge and therefore a second yellow card.
"Ultimately, he pays the price for the flailing arm on Tierney."
Why didn't Anthony Taylor go to the pitchside monitor?
DERMOT SAYS: "He can only go to the screen for the penalty judgement. He would have spoken to Peter Bankes about whether or not it was a penalty. They will have had this conversation and Anthony Taylor will have said that he felt it was a reckless challenge because he got the ball but he also took the player.
"The pictures do actually show that so you can't turn that down. That is where the VAR backs off, and regarding the red card, VAR can't intervene because the challenge was technically classed as a second yellow card. So the on-field decision has to stand."
9898 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:10 am
Soucek is so, so, so over rated. Absolutely nothing.
Coufal is decent but massively over rated and we have seen the best of him.
If we can get £20 million (money paid) for Soucek snap their hand off.
If we can get £15 million for Coufal snap their hand off.
Both will dip massively next 30 games.
Don't do a Diop. I told everyone he was shit from day one. People disagreed. At one point we could have got a little profit on him. Now everyone agrees with me that he is shit.
Don't make this mistake again.
9898 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:10 am
Soucek is so, so, so over rated. Absolutely nothing.
Coufal is decent but massively over rated and we have seen the best of him.
If we can get £20 million (money paid) for Soucek snap their hand off.
If we can get £15 million for Coufal snap their hand off.
Both will dip massively next 30 games.
Don't do a Diop. I told everyone he was shit from day one. People disagreed. At one point we could have got a little profit on him. Now everyone agrees with me that he is shit.
Don't make this mistake again.
Bumpity Bump.
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