PAI Capital

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Looks like you’ll have a different guide on your ILS tour then Pale ?

Already been changed Tim.

It's Alvin now but TC is still doing them.

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If this is backed, as rumour has it, by some russian billionaire, why dont he bid for it himself? why does he need a two bob consortium to front for him? Even if the rumour proves to be false, and its these bunch of clowns, they havent really payed much attention to detail and arent exactly clued up re the support, i mean why even choose Ferdinand first, now the second makes it seem even more so of what it is, i would like to say that all those who accept this now just because Cottee is backing them deserve all they get, but i cant cause it is our club.

Maybe he wouldn't pass a fit and proper person test.

Maybe it's Putin.

[eskimo joe]

If this is backed, as rumour has it, by some russian billionaire, why dont he bid for it himself? why does he need a two bob consortium to front for him? Even if the rumour proves to be false, and its these bunch of clowns, they havent really payed much attention to detail and arent exactly clued up re the support, i mean why even choose Ferdinand first, now the second makes it seem even more so of what it is, i would like to say that all those who accept this now just because Cottee is backing them deserve all they get, but i cant cause it is our club.

Maybe he wouldn't pass a fit and proper person test.

Maybe it's Putin.

Ras-Putin you mean !?

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[Clayton]

Thought this was a dam fine interview , as for Tony he answered the questions put at him by our own Gonzo very well and honestly , came across in my eyes believing in everything PAI have to offer and what they want for the club . Shame PAI themselves didn't do a better job .

[JayK]

Thought this was a dam fine interview , as for Tony he answered the questions put at him by our own Gonzo very well and honestly , came across in my eyes believing in everything PAI have to offer and what they want for the club . Shame PAI themselves didn't do a better job .

Absolutely this. Done his “unpaid” bit very well. No wonder they got him on board coz they made a proper pigs ear of the media side of things til now

[9898]

Thought this was a dam fine interview , as for Tony he answered the questions put at him by our own Gonzo very well and honestly , came across in my eyes believing in everything PAI have to offer and what they want for the club . Shame PAI themselves didn't do a better job .

Haven't listened to this interview as I find the ' live and breathe West Ham, blewd claret and blue, love the club, get depressed when we lose, true Hammer, live in West Ham clothes' act of the presenter a bit cringe, but regarding Cotte supporting PAI, semi desperation makes you do things you rather wouldn't.

[Caxhammer]

I loved the Boleyn and was a season ticket holder for many years. I did get a bit pissed off after they rebuilt the West Stand as it meant a lot of the pubs shut after the game and getting out of there was a nightmare. Queuing up for the tube meant walking all the way back to Plastow and meant a lot of Saturday nights doing Karaoke to the Jam in the (Prince of Wales??) pub. I went to the first game (Domzale) at the new stadium and wasn’t allowed to drink as it was ‘Uefa Rules’ so was seriously pissed off as I couldn’t find a pub either!. I then went to the Chelsea League Cup game and couldn’t meet mates as we all turned up at 7 and it was chaos. I didn’t know if I was queuing for a beer, a pie or a piss. Basically the LS was an awful experience and I have not been back since.
So I’m not exactly a Gold and Sullivan fan.

That said, I have never doubted their intentions (just the competence) in supporting West Ham and, without losing their money, getting the club to flourish as best as can be.

Last year we finished Sixth. Of the teams above us,.Man City, Chelski and Leicester, are bankrolled by billionaires who plough money in without desire for profit. The other two, Man Utd and Liverpool, like us under most peoples understanding, are run as a business interest to make a profit for the likes of G&S or non-supporting people. That’s probably harsh on G&S. But with PAI Capital would definitely be the case.
SO… albeit last year may prove to be a flash in the pan despite the fact most of us think we are on the up, the only thing PAI can offer as an improvement would be to become bigger than Man Utd or Liverpool. Not only is that unrealistic in anything like the short term, it is based on every single one of their press releases or interviews (and I mean no disrespect to TC, Anton or even Rio) relying on the fan base believing a dream despite the peddlars being adamantly opposed to quoting specifics. The TalkSport interview by the guy that took QPR to the Champions League..oh no wait..was embarrassing. The interview with TC, where he has been offered an ‘undefined roll’ just show that (bless em..) previous heroes aren’t the brightest bunch despite their undeniable intent of supporting the best interests of the club. Yet we are expected to support the bid simply as we want better than G&S.
Capital Funds are there to make profit for Investors..end of. Our present ownership may be lining it’s own pockets in the same way but I, at least, believe they still have the best interests of West Ham at heart. What would a Capital Fund have done during the pandemic other than sold Declan to balance the books?

The point being.. The only way PAI could improve West Ham beyond last years performance is to make us bigger and more profitable than Man Utd and Liverpool. And they are expecting us to take that as an option 'obviously without going into specifics'!. Would you invest £50 on those terms?

The failure to supply more detail seems to be blamed on the often mentioned 'Non-disclosure agreement'. Who is the NDA between? It doesn't make sense that PAI would agree an NDA with G&S if G&S don't even acknowledge that a bid has been made and funds evidenced.

The whole thing is seriously fishy and seems based on gaining the fan base support for anyone ousting GSB.

Cax

[Whiskyman]

I loved the Boleyn and was a season ticket holder for many years. I did get a bit pissed off after they rebuilt the West Stand as it meant a lot of the pubs shut after the game and getting out of there was a nightmare. Queuing up for the tube meant walking all the way back to Plastow and meant a lot of Saturday nights doing Karaoke to the Jam in the (Prince of Wales??) pub. I went to the first game (Domzale) at the new stadium and wasn’t allowed to drink as it was ‘Uefa Rules’ so was seriously pissed off as I couldn’t find a pub either!. I then went to the Chelsea League Cup game and couldn’t meet mates as we all turned up at 7 and it was chaos. I didn’t know if I was queuing for a beer, a pie or a piss. Basically the LS was an awful experience and I have not been back since.
So I’m not exactly a Gold and Sullivan fan.

That said, I have never doubted their intentions (just the competence) in supporting West Ham and, without losing their money, getting the club to flourish as best as can be.

Last year we finished Sixth. Of the teams above us,.Man City, Chelski and Leicester, are bankrolled by billionaires who plough money in without desire for profit. The other two, Man Utd and Liverpool, like us under most peoples understanding, are run as a business interest to make a profit for the likes of G&S or non-supporting people. That’s probably harsh on G&S. But with PAI Capital would definitely be the case.
SO… albeit last year may prove to be a flash in the pan despite the fact most of us think we are on the up, the only thing PAI can offer as an improvement would be to become bigger than Man Utd or Liverpool. Not only is that unrealistic in anything like the short term, it is based on every single one of their press releases or interviews (and I mean no disrespect to TC, Anton or even Rio) relying on the fan base believing a dream despite the peddlars being adamantly opposed to quoting specifics. The TalkSport interview by the guy that took QPR to the Champions League..oh no wait..was embarrassing. The interview with TC, where he has been offered an ‘undefined roll’ just show that (bless em..) previous heroes aren’t the brightest bunch despite their undeniable intent of supporting the best interests of the club. Yet we are expected to support the bid simply as we want better than G&S.
Capital Funds are there to make profit for Investors..end of. Our present ownership may be lining it’s own pockets in the same way but I, at least, believe they still have the best interests of West Ham at heart. What would a Capital Fund have done during the pandemic other than sold Declan to balance the books?

The point being.. The only way PAI could improve West Ham beyond last years performance is to make us bigger and more profitable than Man Utd and Liverpool. And they are expecting us to take that as an option 'obviously without going into specifics'!. Would you invest £50 on those terms?

The failure to supply more detail seems to be blamed on the often mentioned 'Non-disclosure agreement'. Who is the NDA between? It doesn't make sense that PAI would agree an NDA with G&S if G&S don't even acknowledge that a bid has been made and funds evidenced.

The whole thing is seriously fishy and seems based on gaining the fan base support for anyone ousting GSB.

Cax

Not sure Leicester owners plough money into the club on a grand scale. Nor, for that matter, does Abramovich nowadays although of course he did back when he first bought the club. In fact Chelsea, despite signing Lukaku, have actually traded at a profit so fat this window. Leicester have always been, and probably like us always will be, a selling club. In very recent times they have sold Kante, Mahrez, Drinkwater, Maguire and Chilwell. The secret of their success is excellent recruitment. Buy cheap, or develop your own, and then sell at a handsome profit.

Tbh under the present FFP rules it is very difficult for any club owners to bankroll a club sufficiently to allow it to break into the elite group that has formed over the past 7 or 8 years. And investor is going to want to see a return on their investment. That is why people buy businesses. To make money. PAI Capital, just like our present owners are no exception. Unfortunately a lot of football fans are very naive when it comes to people's motives for owning clubs. I've actually got a lot of time for Abramovich. Because of Visa issues he doesn't spend as much time in the UK as he used to but whenever he is at a game he genuinely seems to be enjoying the experience of watching his toy. But I bet even he wouldn't be happy if the lovely Marina Granovskaia (and yes, she is a looker) wasn't doing her job right and money was flooring out of the door.

Agree with much of what you say, although I would have loved to see us move to the purpose built stadium in Becton we could have had for peanuts back in the late 1980s / early 90s. For me Upton Park, the area, had become a total craphole, with appalling public transport infrastructure and was a nightmare to drive to and from so I can certainly see the reason for wanting to move away, although I do agree with you the whole moving process could have been handled much better. As could so many of the off field issues in respect of the day to day running of the club.. Including the price the club actually managed to get for the sale of Upton Park which, by common consent, seems to have been significantly under market value. Clearly managing property transactions is a more challenging task for a vertically challenged Russian wannabe than pumping out tacky porn movies and magazines.