palerider wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:05 pm
mkhammer wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:46 pm
The strongest bargaining action you have in any negotiation is..........No deal mate....
You go into making a trade with someone,and that party knows,you have to take more or
less what THEY'RE offering,because they know you can't walk away from it...thats crazy.
It's like going into a garage to buy a motor and the sales guy knows you have to buy it..
you aint getting a good deal...it just doesn't happen...you must always be able to say no,
the other party must always be concerned that you'll just walk away..that's the ONLY way
you compromise...your desperately in love with the car you really want it,but the price
could still be to high...commonsense tells you no..
So Philip Lee was Voted in to Parliament to represent the Conservative Party,with 60% of the
vote in Bracknell...a constituency that also voted 60% leave...and goes of to join the
Liberals sitting in Parliament still....Yeah that's a good one...I do what I want not what my
constituents want...needs to look up the word democracy,and how parliament was designed to
operate.
Getting pissed off with remainers...jumping on anything to stop us reaching a Deal with the EU
bods...from refusing to accept,and at times stating they would vote against any deal..good or bad,
as indeed they did..to now going down the we're against a No Deal Scenario road..
They just want to scupper it...and revoke article 50...I wish one of them would just come out
and say it,instead of all this underhanded crap.....would at least have some respect for him/her
even if I would drag them off to the Tower....
And chose the very moment Johnson was about to speak to do it. A petulant act of rudeness if ever there was one.
When there is a GE then there'll be a Tory MP opposing him. One presumably hand-picked to vote with the government.
I keep on about this but whether or not you voted leave or remain, the democratic vote was held and leave won. Whatever his or her personal views, and my MP was a remainer, you must do what your constituents voted for. Although Hammond is a wet bore with the personality of a cardboard box, at least he has the excuse that his constituents voted to remain.
I enjoy politics and follow it as close as I can,gets complicated but I try...
And seeing stuff now that beggars belief...I hope other people are seeing the same..
i.e...just listened to Jo Swinson...new Lib Leader..
Saying quite Clearly and Categorically her aim is to STOP Brexit...not get a good deal..STOP IT...
and Remain as we were.A second referendum seems secondary...main aim is to prevent
us leaving.
Completely ignoring a public referendum...does she get pulled up on it by the media..I've not
seen it,and like I say I follow closely.
I can't possibly see it...there must been some brains left in parliament somewhere,think even
Corbyn gets it...if article 50 gets revoked/overturned....you'll see riots like this country has never
ever seen before...don't these fuckin liberal do gooders get it...17.5 million people are going to
be SERIOUSLY fucked off.
How anyone can call themselves a democrat and vote for that party,I find Unbelievable TBH,
like I've said before...look the fuckin word up,does piss me off.
Be Against something..stand up and fight for your argument... I love it,I get it,which ever side
politically your on,but when the votes or whatever come in,you acknowledge and accept them,
that's whats made this country the power it is,and needs to continue.
I'm a very Strong Capitalist.....but loved listening to the likes of Wedgewood Benn,cos it
came from honesty,from the heart,who indeed while being totally the polar opposite politically
to Thatcher had respect for her....that's how it should be.
But some of Our present MPs...I'm gonna say it.. it especially on the left of things...do not get
what a democracy means,and its vital that you do,they seem to want to just go forward with
they own purposes at the exclusion of everyone else,including the public..